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08.15.2012 | 5:11 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

This is the official discussion thread for Henderson vs. Diaz. Let's see what you've got.

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Anik
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12.02.2012 | 7:40 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

So the question you're asking is if Diaz is going to fight more like he did in his last fight, a very impressive dominant victory over the elite lightweight gatekeeper or if he's going to fight like he did almost 2 years ago at a division higher than the one he's fighting at against a guy who outweighed him by god know's how much.

Gee, I wonder what the answer is.

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12.02.2012 | 7:40 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@Del Unfortunately we can say the same for Benson. Is the dude who DOMINATED Bocek and Miller gonna show, or the one that lethargically outpointed Edgar going to?

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12.02.2012 | 7:44 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

@zarog not quite, Benson is just not very good and got exposed by Frankie Edgar, the true king of the lightweight division.

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12.02.2012 | 7:46 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   wrong Submission   wrong Round 4  

man i swear, everytime i think about this fight, i get mixed feelings, and change my pick everytime lol

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12.02.2012 | 8:00 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

Nate has looked very impressive lately but I don't think he will have any answer to Bendo's wrestling.
Diaz has subs but in my opinion his BJJ is very over rated and also Henderson has shown time and time again that he has incredible sub defense.
I think Bendo takes a UD either 3 rounds to 2 or 4 rounds to 1

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12.02.2012 | 8:03 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

I don't think Diaz has underrated JJ, his BJJ is sick. But I don't see him getting a submission on a strong guy like Bendo, and he's also great at JJ. 

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12.02.2012 | 8:05 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

I continuously see arguments about Bendo/Edgar STILL! The first fight was Benson, easy. The second was seriously as close to a draw as you can get. I don't see why Bendo gets so much **** for 'losing' to Edgar. 

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12.02.2012 | 8:18 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@Anik Lol. You're so funny. Benson most certainly does not suck, and Frankie is most certainly not the real champ. Rogan and Dana hug Frankie's nuts so much that fans have started to do the same.

Nate's beaten a grand total of 2 good fighters and 1 supremely athletic, but incredibly stupid fighter. Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller, and Melvin Guillard are his only good wins. I'd say Kurt Pellegrino is a fringe good win, so I guess possibly 4 good wins. Nate Diaz is 9-6 since January 2008 with 2 losses to welterweights (no shame), 2 losses to top 20 lightweights, and a bad loss to Joe Stevenson.


Henderson has good wins in: Jamie Varner, Donald Cerrone X2, Jim Miller, Clay Guida, Frankie Edgar X2 (yes, the second one was ridiculously close, but he still won). Since January 2008, Henderson is 13-1, with his lone loss coming to a top 5 lightweight in Anthony Pettis in a closely contested 5-rounder.

By the way, I don't down vote you on this topic because I know you're just a huge Nate Diaz fan. It's cool.

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12.02.2012 | 8:34 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  

Nate is on a roll baby, that belt is going to the 209.

Benson on the other hand isn't the old explosive finisher anymore we once knew from the WEC days. His last 3 fights were all very close and he seemed beatable.

That said I think Benson will be able to win the first 2 rounds, with leg kicks clinch game and maybe even a takedown or two.

But in the 3rd he's going down...what ? what ?




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12.02.2012 | 8:40 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

To be fair to benson. Two of those fights were to edgar the man who beat both Penn and Maynard twice. And I did not think there first fight was all the close.  And Benson dominated guida i dont think that fight was close at all.

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12.02.2012 | 8:43 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

@zarog I know you don't downvote me, it's cool.

Benson Henderson would lose against a lot of lightweights, not just Nate Diaz. I'm sure he'd lose to Frankie, Gray Maynard, Clay Guida, Anthony Pettis (ya that crappy fighter, remember him?), Donald Cerrone, Gilbert Melendez, Pat Healy, Eddie Alvarez, Akihiro Gono, Jens Pulver, Michael Chiesa, Dakota Cochrane, Joe Daddy Stevenson, Urijah Faber, Yasuhiro Uru****ani, me, Floyd Mayweather, Eminem, that dwarf from Game of Thrones, Frodo Baggins, A-Rod (all of them), haven, Nicholas Sarkozy, Leonardo Da Vinci, Socrates, Rosa Parks, etc etc.

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12.02.2012 | 8:46 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

Rosa Parks line made me physically laugh out loud.

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12.02.2012 | 8:46 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

Subtract Frankie, Maynard, Guida, Cerrone, Melenedez....Actually, just take out everyone except for Pettis, whom will likely lose to Henderson in a rematch. Also, you must think quite highly of yourself to think you can beat Henderson.

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12.02.2012 | 8:47 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   wrong Submission   wrong Round 4  

Pretty sure he beat Cerrone, and Edgar twice already! =D

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12.02.2012 | 8:50 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

Not at all, I'm awful in the ring actually.

Still got enough skills to beat Mr. Benson Henderson though. He received the most unwarranted title shot ever, he didn't beat any legitimate fighters only a a nobody who should be fighting on RFA cards. Nate Diaz beat one of the most elite fighters on the planet to get his title shot, at least his title shot was fair.

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12.02.2012 | 8:52 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@Anik What are you talking about? Ben and Nate beat the same guy in their 3-fight win streak. Jim Miller was the 2nd for Ben and the 3rd for Nate. Sooooooo........Are you saying Nate shouldn't be getting a title shot?

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12.02.2012 | 8:53 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  







@Franklin dominated ?

Bendo won but it was close...

And btw if anything of those ^^ two scenarios happen in the fight next weekend, Nate gets the finish !







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12.02.2012 | 8:57 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

@zarog I'm preeeeeeeetty sure you got your Jim Millers mixed up bud.

The one Nate fought:
The one Benson fought:



Yikes, figured you would know that.


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12.02.2012 | 9:00 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Diaz   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

It wasent that close at all. your clips are very misleading. you literally only posted everything guida did. Out fo contect that looks impressive, but it rather sad when taken into context. Your showing less then 30 seconds of a friggin 15 minute fight. I could take clips a numerous one sided fights and make them look "close" by showing the only good things the loser did, with out showing the rest of the fight were he simply got out fought completely.

Bendson not only out grapple guida the entire fight out side the few seconds of footages you showed. And Benson landed more then 3 times as many strikes as Guida.  He out landed Guida in every single round significantly. He also landed almost 4 times as many significant strikes.  it was not a close fight despite how misleading your clips are. it was one sided fight. Yes Guida got dominated much like Couture did against Nog.

* Edited at 12.02.2012, 9:04 PM ET *

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12.02.2012 | 9:02 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@Diele Guida had his moments, but I thought he clearly lost a 30-27 decision.

@Anik Lol. Okay, that's just funny. But, it's weird because the guy Nate fought, looks so much like the guy getting brutalized here:






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