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UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2 Discussion Thread
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08.19.2016 | 3:28 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 104th
Should be a fun one.
Prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 630pm ET before switching to FS1 at 8pm. PPV main card airs at 10pm.
Enjoy!
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Saturday 08.20.2016 at 10:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
- Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
- Ownership: WME-IMG
- Venue: T-Mobile Arena
- Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
- Enclosure: Octagon
- TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
- Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
- Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
- Ticket Revenue (live gate): $7,692,010
- Attendance: 15,539
- PPV Buys / Buyrate: 1,600,000 | TV Ratings: 1.3M avg. viewers (FS1 prelims)
- MMA Bouts: 12
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| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Conor McGregor defeats Nate Diaz via Decision, Majority | 5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Anthony Johnson defeats Glover Teixeira via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Donald Cerrone defeats Rick Story via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches | 2:02 Round 2 of 3, 7:02 Total Bout Page | |
| Mike Perry defeats Hyun Gyu Lim via KO/TKO, Punches | 3:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Tim Means defeats Sabah Homasi via KO/TKO, Punches | 2:56 Round 2 of 3, 7:56 Total Bout Page | |
| Cody Garbrandt defeats Takeya Mizugaki via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:48 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Raquel Pennington defeats Elizabeth Phillips via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Artem Lobov defeats Chris Avila via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Cortney Casey defeats Randa Markos via Submission, Armbar | 4:34 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Lorenz Larkin defeats Neil Magny via KO/TKO, Elbows | 4:08 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Colby Covington defeats Max Griffin via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound | 2:18 Round 3 of 3, 12:18 Total Bout Page | |
| Marvin Vettori defeats Alberto Uda via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 4:30 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page |
Responses Page 18
08.23.2016 | 12:53 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 725 Points | 13th Place
I don't think Conor gets the pass conspiracy theorists think he does. He was very aggressive for the majority of the fight, he brought the fight to Nate, he busted him up, I'm sorry but I just can't get behind any claim for tentativity, let alone running being worth the time to read it. It's a fight, you're fighting the best in the world, every now and then you'll find yourself in a bad spot and need to get out of it to reset. Jon Jones literally broke into a sprint against Ramage. Was he by any means losing to Rampage at any point of the fight? No. But he sure as hell wasn't going to eat a Rampage right hand so upped and got the **** out of there.
Every single on of Conor's "running" instances resulted in him resetting in the middle of the cage and engaging. That's not running, that's resetting.
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
08.23.2016 | 1:06 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points | Tied for 747th
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
08.23.2016 | 8:02 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 470 Points | Tied for 1051st
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
08.23.2016 | 10:33 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 104th
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
08.23.2016 | 11:08 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
08.23.2016 | 11:17 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 725 Points | 13th Place
Actually, according to the round-per-round sig. strikes numbers (yes, that's still how MMA fights are judged), Conor outstruck Nate in all rounds except for rounds 2 and 3 (yes, that includes round 5 which has been given unanimously to Diaz on account of a very late TD).
In round 2 Nate outstruck Conor by 3 strikes (both at 48%) but was dropped twice.
Conor stuffed all but 1 of Nate's 8 TD attempts.
Conor was landing at a higher % in ALL of the rounds except for the two rounds he was the most gassed out and even then Nate landed the same % or barely edged him by 1%.
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 11:29 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
08.23.2016 | 11:19 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 104th
A knockdown is worth so much more than a TD, it's not even funny.
The point of the fight is the finish your opponent. The closest you can come to finishing an opponent without actually finishing him is to knock him down with a concussive strike.
Effective striking is the first and most heavily-weighted criteria judges are supposed to use. Rib shots against the fence are not nearly as effective as a left cross that drops you three times.
The most effective strike you can land is a knockout blow. The second most effective strike is a knockdown. That's why, in boxing, a knockdown AUTOMATICALLY grants you a 10-8 round. Two knockdowns grants you a 10-7, because it shows a degree of dominance unmatched by volume striking.
One punch that knocks an opponent down is worth more than 10 that do not.
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 11:21 AM ET *
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
08.23.2016 | 12:03 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
so now rib shots dont count but conors leg kicks were 24% of his sig strikes. Big jon was right there at the end of the 2nd so i looked at that as a possible stoppage.
The 3rd we have stalling but people saying it is ok because conor was just getting out of control held by diaz. i mean submission attempts dont even get recognized.
And all im saying is this was a draw!
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
08.23.2016 | 1:53 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 490 Points | Tied for 909th
everyone is baised... but some of you guys act like you speak the truth...and whom ever doesnt agree is a hater, but you fail to see the balls in your mouth.
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 1:54 PM ET *
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
08.23.2016 | 2:27 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 104th
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
08.23.2016 | 2:34 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 590th
I don't think he was slipping on the knockdowns he just got hit hard, and maybe the weakened leg Conor had been drilling made it easier to drop him, but he never really seemed like he was in danger of being KO'd. Although there was one point in the first round where he was standing and it looked like he wobbled for a second. I only watched the fight once thought so just have my initial take to go on.
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 2:37 PM ET *
"“All of a sudden, he was shooting for a takedown, and I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re a wrestler now? Remember, I’m the black belt in jiu-jitsu. And you’re shooting on me now? This is a wrap." - Nate Diaz"
08.23.2016 | 3:10 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
08.23.2016 | 3:22 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 440th
08.23.2016 | 5:14 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 545th
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2659289-after-action-review-did-conor-mcgregor-actually-beat-nate-diaz-at-ufc-202
and Jack Slack's take
and here's a Bloody Elbow roundtable on who Conor should fight next.
"Grammar. The difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****."
08.23.2016 | 5:40 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 490 Points | Tied for 909th
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
08.23.2016 | 6:04 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 353rd
Your being far from fair. When Skelher weighted more strikes over power was when condit out landed lawler 4 to 1 in significant strikes and control the vast majority of the fight. If your going to bring up examples as evidence at least make them relevant. Nate barely landed more strikes, that far cry different then being out landed 4 to 1 in significant strikes, but please keep on going with your ******** comparison.
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 6:53 PM ET *
"here I come to save the day"
08.23.2016 | 6:12 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 353rd
* Edited at 08.23.2016, 6:30 PM ET *
"here I come to save the day"
08.23.2016 | 9:23 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 570 Points | Tied for 406th
Then they traded pretty even until about the 50 second mark, where Conor was getting ripped with the Stockton slap combos. Conor was defending and around the 30 second mark Conor threw a knee then tried to circle out and attempted to control Diaz wrists to stall out round.
Diaz fleury, if anything, saved him from dropping a 10-8. It by no rational reason won him the round. You crying kids trying to say other wise are so adorable it's hilarious.
"This is Prize-Fighting, IDGAF about your family or your problems - MassaBruce"
08.24.2016 | 8:05 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 470 Points | Tied for 1051st
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
08.24.2016 | 8:31 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 725 Points | 13th Place
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205