Topic: Best Pound-for-Pound Men
Silva #1… Not a Chance
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06.01.2013 | 6:45 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 6:47 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 6:56 AM ET
"And whats up with y'all, Looking at me like a monkey, You !?! Yeah right, You're all saints, You !! Bunch of macaques !! Gimme a baby monkey, He'll be .. Wonderfull"
06.01.2013 | 7:19 AM ET
"That hole is tighter than a nuns nasty"
06.01.2013 | 7:32 AM ET
Which leads me to this assumption of your little thread: DOUBLE FAIL
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06.01.2013 | 10:05 AM ET
die, Anderson is on another level with his striking but he's a throwback in that he can get by with one dominant skill. Although he did seem to show some wrestling improvement in the 2nd Chael fight, it's obviously his weakness and I've never really been that impressed with his BJJ (sorry but subbing Chael Sonnen is not that hard), and we've gotten to the point where to be even an above average MMA fighter, if you have a significant weakness, it will be exploited. The fact that Anderson is still champ, I think, is due to MW being by far the weakest division (although it's improving) and his spectacularly skilled striking which mentally conquers most opponents before they fight but in any other division I think he'd have already lost. He's an all-time great but I think most give him too much credit for being well-rounded.
* Edited at 06.01.2013, 10:11 AM ET *
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06.01.2013 | 10:12 AM ET
"Ohhhhhhhh ****! Look at that door, dude. See that door there? The one marked "Pirate"? You think a pirate lives in there?"
06.01.2013 | 10:39 AM ET
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
06.01.2013 | 10:48 AM ET
Personally, I don't mind ppl having Anderson in the 1 spot because he's done some incredible things in the cage that nobody has been able to simulate. He's got more intangibles than all the other UFC champs combined.
With that said, I think GSP and Jones have clearly demonstrated that they're more well-rounded, and I think GSP is the best of the three in terms of pure P4P skill when you factor in his wrestling, striking, BJJ, adaptability and especially his timing. If Anderson was a natural 170-pounder, I think he'd be a solid underdog to GSP, as would Jones.
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06.01.2013 | 10:49 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 11:09 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 11:15 AM ET
06.01.2013 | 11:36 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 11:53 AM ET
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06.01.2013 | 12:31 PM ET
And yes, I think Aldo, Barao, and even Johnson have shown more in terms of skill than the Big 3.
Oh and Cain is being shorted here too since he's already almost the smallest in his weight class.
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06.01.2013 | 12:39 PM ET
The only glaring difference I can think of is Aldo's vicious leg kicks.
* Edited at 06.01.2013, 12:40 PM ET *
06.01.2013 | 12:53 PM ET
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06.01.2013 | 1:05 PM ET
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06.01.2013 | 1:47 PM ET
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06.01.2013 | 2:16 PM ET
I think you have to give it to Silva based on his repeated success. No losses in 7 years fighting UFC level talent is crazy. Aldo is getting up there and he may surpass Silva's record, but I wouldn't rank him above Silva just yet. Down the road maybe, but not now.
Jones is an easy second because of his dominant wins and could also get close to Silva's record.
The argument for Cain and GSP is good, but I can't honestly say they are better than Silva or Jones given that they both lost their UFC titles.
That's my thought process. Those are the only 5 names that deserve to be considered as the P4P best. Can't see a solid argument for the other champions.
Benson barely beats his opponents, Barao just got the title, Cruz hasn't fought in almost 2 years (which is why he's not on my list at all) and MM is fighting in a division that has like 7 fighters.
06.01.2013 | 2:48 PM ET
Who has Silva subbed besides Sonnen? Hendo doesn't count because as you said it was due to strikes. Aldo doesn't use his BJJ but he was a champ before he got into MMA. GSP lost to Serra and imo it ruined him as a fighter, now he's just an athlete.
Cain lost to JDS in a fight it's pretty obvious now that he shouldn't have taken and even considering that JDS could be on this list also. Silva has never faced an opponent who could push him as much as those 2 push each other.
Mighty Mouse's argument is easy. He gave the champ at the weight class above probably his toughest fight and he's still the smallest guy in his class. He's the mini-Edgar.
I don't think it's fair to use results as a basis for p4p simply because the lower weight classes have not only just been introduced to the UFC but because many lighter weight fighters fought larger opponents because of the lack of opportunity to face similar sized foes in the bigger orgs.
I can make a case against Jones easily also: He's a massive LHW who has the wrestler's natural advantage at weight-cutting, he has Greg Jackson to keep him from being in fights and turning them into athletic contests, and while he's been impressive in dominating long-time greats of the glamour division, he had perfect timing as far as coming along when the old guard had passed their primes and had stagnated as far as using all their skills so not truly being as well-rounded as modern MMA fighters in the lighter weight classes.
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