Topic: Best Pound-for-Pound Men
Where do you put Aldo and GSP now?
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05.01.2011 | 10:35 AM ET
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05.01.2011 | 10:41 AM ET
I have to let it all sink in. GSP is #2 imo and I think last night showed it. Not just his performance, but you can tell he doesn't really have an interest in 185, which is fine, but Anderson has fought from 170 all the way up to 205 and had success. That is the P4P king.
Aldo.. I am not sure. I'm waiting to see if anything comes out on why he gassed so bad. He was nothing like that in the fight with Faber. Ellenberger needs a step up in competition. How about Rory vs. Jake? Condit is lined up to fight already.
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05.01.2011 | 11:56 AM ET
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05.01.2011 | 12:40 PM ET
I think Aldo is around #12-14. I've previously had Mendes above Aldo in FW and P4P rankings due to the fact that I think he'd do well against him and others in the division. Right now I have him ranked lower though.
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05.01.2011 | 12:46 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 12:57 PM ET
Don't really understand what you're saying about Bisping. If someone thought that Bisping would beat GSP, Anderson, Edgar, Melendez, Bones, Maynard, Penn, Shields, Fitch, etc were they the same size, then yes he should be ranked #1 P4P. But to think that you'd have to be stupid.
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05.01.2011 | 1:27 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 2:02 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 4:07 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 4:34 PM ET
i don't have any reason to move either of them. @gio you say you have Anderson so low because of how he'd do against wrestlers but you have Cain ranked lower than him? You realize Cain took down Brock and stuffed brocks takedown. Cain p4p is the best wrestler in the ufc.
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05.01.2011 | 4:36 PM ET
oh an my list is only accurate by my opinion 1-5. 6-10 I just threw in there. I need to update that part.
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05.01.2011 | 5:20 PM ET
just five. gsp falls b/c of that performance vs shields and i'm putting diaz in front of him b/c i am biased and i like my fighters to be entertaining and finishers. the canadian fans were booing gsp. 11 of those 12 fights were either good or great. then gsp has to ruin everything. still one of the best ufc events ever.
05.01.2011 | 5:22 PM ET
05.01.2011 | 9:12 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 9:16 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 9:33 PM ET
actually believe nick diaz is the perfect fighter to beat gsp...PERFECT...
2nd is jon jones, more because i see the mess of potential he has and his potential..along with how badly shogun got DETSROYED, just like everyone else...bad dude
jose aldo fell a little too, only because mark hominick was winning standup in 2nd round (aldo's specialty btw) and because he gassed...BAD! and again, its weird..he WON, but im VERY...unimpressed.
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05.01.2011 | 9:37 PM ET
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved" – Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
05.01.2011 | 9:59 PM ET
Also, anyone who thinks Anderson isn't number one or number two is crazy. He hasn't lost in the UFC, and just because he had a tough fight with Chael, people think he'll lose to wrestlers. He beat Dan ******* Henderson in the second round. He beat Sonnen. And he will beat Okami. 3 great wrestlers. Edgar, Shields, Melendez (are you ******* kidding?), Maynard, would all get ****** up by Silva. They have to get into his range to get a takedown, and when they shoot, he will blast them with a knee. Watch the Carlos Newton fight.
Jones shouldn't be too high because he wins based on pure athleticism and size, size shouldn't be considered if we're talking about "Pound for pound".
Anyone who has Diaz ranked top 5 are wrong too. I hate to be that frank, but it's true. Wait until he fights some decent competition to even use him in the same sentence as Aldo, Silva or GSP. He can't wrestle, and his BJJ is so over rated. Every solid wrestler will destroy him, the same thing that is happening to Nate will happen to Nick. People need to open their eyes and see that.
/rant
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05.01.2011 | 10:02 PM ET
gsp won those rounds MOSTLY because it was pre-concieved that if it was standing, gsp was winning...admitingly, i haven't seen a replay of it yet..but thinking back it feels like gsp didn't do good in the standup post eye injury...but either way those were horribly boring rounds and at the same time i NEVER saw shields attempt one of those "funky" takedowns in the last couple rounds..not sound strategy...but wat can u do...
btw...with ur rankings how is bj penn higher than Jones? i understand prove urself...he HAS tho...Destroyed shogun, bader, janitor, hamill, vera, bonner....never ONCE being in danger...that speaks VOLUMES! while he's young, i still think he's GREAT
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05.01.2011 | 10:07 PM ET
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05.01.2011 | 10:18 PM ET
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