Nelson vs. Werdum

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@nortis well i would say Werdum's BJJ is quite a bit better then Mir's but i mean we will see what happens.
Nelson seems like a cool guy and if he starts taking MMA more serious i defiantly think he can be a top ten guy in the HW division. 

If Werdum beats Nelson.. I think Mir vs. Werdum should happen.

I agree. I think Mir would probably get the knock out though.
Werdum vs Nog also would be interesting.

I really think Nelson gets the KO early.

I think Nelson is too tough to be submitted or KO'd, but I don't think he can keep up with Werdum.

I don't think Werdum will submit Nelson.

How do people have Werdum winning? Can someone explain to me?

@anik does this answer your question?

Grappling credentials

• CBJJ World Jiu-Jitsu Championship

• 2004 Black Belt Pesadissimo: 1st Place
• 2003 Black Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Black Belt Absolute: 3rd Place
• 2002 Brown Belt Super-Pesado: 3rd Place
• 2001 Purple Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
• 2000 Blue Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Blue Belt Absolute: 1st Place

• ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships

• 2011 ADCC – 99kg+: 2nd Place
• 2009 ADCC – 99kg+: Champion
• 2007 ADCC – 99 kg+: Champion
• 2005 ADCC – 99 kg+: 3rd Place
• 2003 ADCC – 99 kg+: 2nd Place
• 2003 ADCC – Absolute: 3rd Place

• CBJJ Pan American Championship

• 2003 PAC – Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
• 2003 PAC – Black Belt 99kg+: 3rd Place
• 2002 PAC – Brown Belt 99 kg+: Champion
• 2001 PAC – Purple Belt 99 kg+: Champion

• 2001 PAC – Purple Belt Absolute: Champion

nelson uses grappling defense and top control to win a decision imo

Fights don't start on the ground, you gotta bring 'em to the ground.

Roy Nelson's got a striking advantage, Fabricio's wrestling is ... not good and if he pulls guard, I think Roy could defend himself fairly efficiently. Plus it's not like he'll stay on the ground with Mr. Heavy Abu Dhabi.

I think Nelson wins via awesome Kung Fu see endorsement

I don't see how Werdum can win this fight. Nelson has much better striking and he is black belt in BJJ and has never been submitted.

Man i just hope we dont see werdum flopping to his back while inviting roy to come into his guard.

* Edited at 01.30.2012, 5:30 PM ET *

Nelson's striking is being overrated here. Sure he's got heavy hands, but he doesn't throw combos and he's fairly slow.  

fglop is right on the spot. Since when Nelson got K1 striking? Since he KO'd 3 people in the UFC not known for their chins? He's got a durable chin but he will not outstrike Werdum. Especially since Werdum striking has been improving lately.

Nelson doesn't have K1 level striking, LOL, but that doesn't mean he isn't a solid striker.  He has solid power and underrated defense (he's very, very effective at using his forearms and elbows to deflect incoming strikes).  He also uses the cage effectively (cutting off, clinching, etc) and measures distance very well.

While he struggled big time against JDS, he's also given JDS his toughest fight in the UFC.

On the feet, I think the threat of power + his aggressiveness will be enough to beat Verdum standing.  Nelson also has the better wrestling of the two, although I think that's nearly a toss up.  I believe that Nelson is good enough on the ground to survive against Verdum, if he's not reckless.

Normally, I would say Nelson by decision... but I have a wierd feeling that Verdum might come in underestimating Nelson's power (after surviving against Overeem and submitting Fedor) and I'm going to say he gets caught in the first with Nelson's usual suspect (overhand right). All that beng said, I wouldn't be surprised to see it going to a decision with either man coming out ahead.

 

* Edited at 01.30.2012, 6:45 PM ET *

I'll take Nelson early KO. But to make it seem like Werdum has no chance is crazy!

Nelson doesn't seem to be improving and Fabricio has always been better than him.

I don't get where all this "Werdum can't strike" stuff comes from he seemed like he was getting the better of the exchanges against Allistair whos striking it way better then Nelson's is.