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Edgar vs. Henderson

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11.12.2011 | 10:55 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

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02.26.2012 | 5:35 PM ET

edgar won that fight. period.

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

Edgar pushed the action and countered everything benson threw at him. I'm sick of these judges "oh he's got cuts on his face so, that means he lost" 

Look at a fighter like NIck Diaz, he used to get cuts all the time, he had surgery to remove scar tissue in his face because of it... but he was winning fights!

If Edgar doesn't get an immediate rematch I'll be super pissed. You cater to Penn, Maynard. Then Dana calls him one of the best P4P fighters on the planet and... no rematch? Crazy. 

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02.26.2012 | 5:40 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

It was a close fight, and I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch, but it's not the same thing.

The first Penn fight was much closer than the second one, and was legitimately controversial.  As for Maynard, it was a draw in a title fight.  I think that's one of the few situations where you pretty much HAVE to do a rematch.
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02.26.2012 | 5:42 PM ET

Dude I love Edgar, but he lost that fight. Yes Dana called him one of the P4P best, but he's fighting out of his weight class, fighting a large LW. He's been fighting an uphill battle at LW and gotten through in with skill and heart, the guy's a star, but he lost that fight. Fightmetric has Benson winning.

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02.26.2012 | 5:42 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

I think Guida should fight Maynard, if that fight happens I think Pettis should fight the winner of it for a title shot. I dont see any issue with that..? 

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02.26.2012 | 5:43 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

The only thing wrong is how long Henderson has to wait, unless you mean he should rematch Edgar in the meantime.
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02.26.2012 | 5:49 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

Well theres alot of possibilities, they could even set up Diaz/Pettis if Diaz gets past Miller. But yes in the meantime I do think Edgar SHOULD get a rematch, but its not necessarily a must. I dont see a problem with Pettis being next in line for the belt now though.

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02.26.2012 | 6:37 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@mike Edgar will be out for a long time for medical suspension. Waiting for Edgar will take forever.

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02.26.2012 | 6:57 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

@Hybrid That is very true..

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02.26.2012 | 8:30 PM ET

I think Henderson's second round upkick against Edgar really sealed the fight for him. If it wasn't for that one upkick that almost knocked Edgar out, I think the rest of the fight would have gone differently, possibly in Edgar's favor. I personally scored the fight 49-46 for Henderson, but I'll admit I've been a big Henderson fan since his days in the WEC. He honestly improves a lot with each fight that we see him, while I think Edgar has already reached his zenith in terms of potential. 

If there was a rematch (I have a feeling there might be because both Dana and Lorenzo scored the fight for Edgar...) I think Henderson would win even more decisively, but I will never count Edgar out. 

I would really like to see Henderson vs Pettis; Edgar vs Nate Diaz/Jim Miller winner. BTW Pettis's KO of Lauzon was sick, I wasn't expecting that at all. 

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02.26.2012 | 9:03 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

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02.26.2012 | 10:29 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

All of you guys keep talking about the upkick that knocked Edgar down like that's the moment that won Henderson the fight.  What about the hook that put Henderson on his ass?  Yeah, he got right back up, but Edgar was able to recover and shoot for a double-leg and survive the round.  I don't see much of a difference there. 

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02.26.2012 | 10:30 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@RW I thought it was a slip more than the punch. Maybe it was the punch. 

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02.26.2012 | 10:33 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

It would be pure speculation that it was a slip, but it was still the result of a connected punch.  If we go by the same rules of a ten-point must system, then that should've been a 10-8 round for Edgar.  Any time a fighter falls down from the impact of a punch, whether he had "good footing" or not, it's a knock down.

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02.26.2012 | 10:37 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@RW This isn't boxing. The knock downs don't count for 10-8. See Edgar/Maynard II. 3 knock downs would have made it a 10-6. Knock downs don't count as a point. Your entire argument is so flawed I don't even know why I'm talking about it.

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02.26.2012 | 10:42 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

They say before every single UFC that the "ten-point must" system is in effect, which means that knock downs equal to a 10-8 round.  That's part of what the ten-point must system is.  The other half is obvious.

Also, stop being such a prick.

* Edited at 02.26.2012, 10:43 PM ET *

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02.26.2012 | 10:45 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

I wasn't aware "ten point must" had anything to do with knockdowns being 10-8. If so Faber would have beat Cruz as he had 3 knockdowns. It doesn't work like that in MMA.

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02.26.2012 | 10:46 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

The upkick was a far more important moment in the fight, in my opinion. And I don't really understand lawman's 10-point system argument.

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02.26.2012 | 10:48 PM ET

Prediction: correct Henderson   correct Decision  

@RW Okay, the 10-point must system works differently in boxing than in MMA. Knock downs take a point from the boxer that is knocked down in boxing. MMA does not have this rule. The 10-8 is far more subjective in MMA than in boxing. Being knocked down does not mean you lose another point on the round in MMA. 

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02.26.2012 | 10:48 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

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02.26.2012 | 10:48 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Edgar   wrong Decision  

the 10 point must system is purely a mathematical scoring system, it refers only to the amount of points that can be awarded for a round.  The knockdown rule is specific to boxing, and has never been used in MMA.  Nor should it be.

The link you have there is from Boxrec, and refers to the sport of boxing only.

* Edited at 02.26.2012, 10:52 PM ET *

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