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Breaking News: Dana White is in 'real' Negotiations to sign Floyd Mayweather to a UFC Contract
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12.20.2017 | 1:44 PM ET
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UFC and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are discussing a deal that would bring the undefeated boxer into mixed martial arts, according to UFC president Dana White.
"We're talking to Floyd about doing a UFC deal," White told ESPN. "It's real. He was talking about [boxing] Conor McGregor. Was that real? Have you heard Floyd talk about many things that aren't real? He usually tips his hand when he's in the media, and then that **** ends up happening.
"We're interested in doing something with Floyd. Everything is a realistic possibility. Mayweather vs. McGregor ******* happened. Anything is possible."
Mayweather (50-0, 27 KOs) is less than four months removed from an extremely lucrative boxing match against McGregor, UFC's biggest star. After winning the bout via TKO in the 10th round, the 40-year-old promised it would be the final fight of his career.
During a live social media stream earlier this month, however, Mayweather said he could sign with UFC.
"They just called me not too long ago and asked me to come back," said Mayweather, via Fight Hype. "I can come right back. If I wanted to, I can come right back to the UFC. I can go fight in the Octagon. I can do a three- or four-fight deal in the Octagon and make a billion dollars. Remember, I'm Floyd 'Money' Mayweather."
During the buildup to the McGregor fight, which drew 4.3 million domestic pay-per-view buys, according to Showtime, Mayweather said on several occasions that the two could fight in MMA. Those claims were widely met with skepticism.
Even if Mayweather is serious about a UFC deal, it is highly unlikely he would face McGregor (21-3), UFC's lightweight champion.
The Nevada State Athletic Commission sanctioned a boxing match, but it would be much harder to justify sanctioning an MMA fight, where Mayweather would face an even greater disadvantage than McGregor did in the boxing ring.
According to Showtime, the Mayweather-McGregor event generated more than $600 million in revenue. White told ESPN that global pay-per-view buys settled at around 6.5 million.
"There was no way I thought that fight was going to happen, but when you sit down with a smart guy like [Mayweather adviser] Al Haymon, a very intelligent guy, anything is possible," White said. "And Floyd, as much as he does the money thing and this and that, Floyd was actually very easy to work with. I was impressed."
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Well...this is...unexpected. I know Dana has been looking to make/bring in stars to the UFC, since they only have one and he is considering leaving the sport. Never did I think that this was their grand solution. Especially considering the age and inexperience Floyd has in MMA. I am at an honest loss for words.
Thoughts?
* Edited at 12.20.2017, 1:46 PM ET *
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12.20.2017 | 1:50 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.20.2017 | 2:52 PM ET
Will I watch? Yes
Will I pay for it? Hell No
"Drive Fast, Take Chances"
12.20.2017 | 3:20 PM ET
This to me, is the epitome of hypocrisy with regards to the world of MMA, and especially in regards to the MMA fanbase and it's reaction towards freakshow fights. If it's a fight that happens in a Japanese promotion like Hong Man Choi vs Fedor or any Gabi Garcia fight, people **** on it and call it a blight on the sport. But if it's the UFC and it's James Toney vs Randy Couture or it's going to be Floyd vs Conor 2: Electric Boogaloo, then all the potato brained casuals love it and turn a blind ******* eye because of the name on the marquee and because it's the UFC. If Dana was willing to have Floyd climb the ladder (albeit on a fast track) and fight his way up to getting Conor in a title fight, then whatever. But that isn't what's happening here, so boo this potential signing and boo Dana.
* Edited at 12.20.2017, 3:22 PM ET *
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12.20.2017 | 8:20 PM ET
12.20.2017 | 8:31 PM ET
A boxer beating an MMA fighter w/ zero pro boxing fights doesn't prove that boxing is better than MMA. And an MMA fighter beating an old, past his prime boxing great in MMA doesn't prove that MMA is better than boxing. That is even more highlighted if Floyd were to fight Conor in MMA and Conor won. They will have both ****** up the other, with each winning in their respective sport - as they should.
As for the actual topic; Floyd is never going to fight MMA. And I don't blame him. He's one of the very best to ever box, and he knows it'd be silly to even entertain the idea of taking an MMA fight, especially with him now being in his 40s. He could literally box any guy he has beaten the hell out of in his 50-fight career once more and make way more money than he would be taking a risky fight in MMA.
It's never going to happen. It doesn't need to happen. Conor called out Floyd to box. Conor got what he wanted, and Floyd kicked his ass. Floyd is not dumb enough to do the same thing Conor did and go to a different sport. It's literally a lose-lose situation. He has nothing left to prove. He's a boxer, and no one can hang with him in that sport. That's all that matters.
**** all this MMA vs. boxing talk.
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
12.20.2017 | 9:51 PM ET
* Edited at 12.20.2017, 9:54 PM ET *
12.21.2017 | 1:14 AM ET
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
12.21.2017 | 1:47 AM ET
12.21.2017 | 1:56 AM ET
Much more.
There have been ten deaths in boxing on average per year over the last 100 years. It is the sport of pure striking--of punching your oppoent in the head as hard and as often as you can over twelve rounds. You can be KO'ed multiple times in a boxing match as long as you can beat the count. No ref to save you like in MMA. If you're getting finished in a boxing match, that's only happening one way, Everybody leaves through that door in a box.
The best MMA strikers in existence right now do not hit as hard, or as clean, as the best Boxers. It's not even close. I guarantee you that Deonay Wilder hits considerably harder than Ngannou and he's not even in the top 10 hardest punchers of all time ( hardest puncher p4p Julian Jackson, hardest ever Ernie Shavers).
MMA looks worse because there's more blood. This is because boxing gloves are designed to stop cuts, because cuts stop boxing matches. That, and there's no elbows.
There's more KO's in MMA because of those little 4OZ gloves. Fact. It's just physics; they deliver impact force more efficently than tens or eights.What they don't do is stop massive brain Trauma, which is why the lives of most retired boxers is a ******* horror show.
You put Boxing HW's in 4 oz gloves, people would die. That's why they're made to wear big foam pillows.
Boxing is a limited set of rules, but so is MMA. It's just less limited. You can't headbutt, eye gouge, bite people's throats out, kick them in the nards or breakpeoples joints in MMA. Does that mean its not 'real' fighting'? There's rules. And boxing is no different. It's not that one is more real fighting than the other, they're just different. In truth, abntyhing that isn't no-holds-barred anything goes free for all violence isn't real fighting.
Also, Floyd will never slum it in MMA. He made more in one fight than Dana white did during the sale of the UFC. Also, he's over the hill and isn't p4p of anything except being a wanker.Actually, that's not true. He may be the best defensive point boxer of all time, it's either him or sweet pea.
In any case, the current p4p Boxers are IMHO:
1.lomacheno/Terence Crawford depending on your world view ( Lomachenko is technically better but I still like bud more)
2. Errol spence Jnr.
* Edited at 12.21.2017, 2:07 AM ET *
12.21.2017 | 3:09 AM ET
In the end MMA is just the far more dynamic sport. A boxer is allowed to use 100% of his skill set in a MMA cage but it offers him a little more than a punchers chance. A MMA fighter steps into a boxing ring and he is limited to about 25% of his skillset. The MMA cage allows both to use 100% of their skill meaning it is a better representation of who is the better overall complete fighter and usually the MMA fighter comes out on top.
In Short in a boxing Ring it is a 100% Boxer vs a 25% MMA fighter
In a MMA ring or cage it is a 100% Boxer vs a 100% MMA Fighter
I also agree Floyd will never 'slum it' in MMA. Even if he could miraculously make the same amount of money he knows the likelihood of him getting his ass whipped is pretty high and he is too egotistical and proud to allow that to happen.
* Edited at 12.21.2017, 3:10 AM ET *
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
12.21.2017 | 7:53 AM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.21.2017 | 8:05 AM ET
12.22.2017 | 7:43 AM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.23.2017 | 5:22 AM ET
"Enlightenment comes from the question not the answer"
12.25.2017 | 11:09 AM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.25.2017 | 11:20 AM ET
12.25.2017 | 5:45 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.26.2017 | 9:49 AM ET
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"here I come to save the day"
12.26.2017 | 9:29 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
12.26.2017 | 10:52 PM ET