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Oddsbot
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09.04.2011 | 1:39 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong Decision  

This is the official discussion thread for Velasquez vs. Dos Santos. Let's see what you've got.

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Spaceman Spiff
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09.04.2011 | 5:43 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

How was Cain exposed by Lesnar?

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09.04.2011 | 5:58 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

Not exposed in the sense that he was hurt or anything like that, obviously.  I just meant that I think it showed comparatively that JDS has better, more crisp striking.  Dos Santos also has faster hands and better lateral movement.  I think Santos wins this fight.

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09.04.2011 | 5:59 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

Yeah i dont quite understand that either?

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RWLawman
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09.04.2011 | 6:00 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

Just explained it above.

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thiagosilva9794
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09.04.2011 | 6:05 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

I dont see how Cain out striking Lesnar shows that Jds striking is better?

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RWLawman
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09.04.2011 | 6:06 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

It's the speed of the punches and the general technique.  I'm comparing Cain's fight against Lesnar to Dos Santos' fight against Carwin.

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thiagosilva9794
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09.04.2011 | 6:07 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

Cain finished Brock in the first? I dont know if there really comparable.

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RWLawman
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09.04.2011 | 6:09 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

Ok.

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BodyModifier
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09.04.2011 | 7:12 PM ET

I don't think you can really compare Cain's/JDS's striking based on the opponents they have fought. Brock Lesnar is a turtle and doesn't like to get hit in the face at all. Even though he stopped him it's because Brock let him beat on him. The striking is completely different when being compared with JDS and Cain but it doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to win. If Cain can stand long enough to set himself up for a take down. JDS has to then work off his back. Have we really seen him off his back? I know he's no slouch on the ground but Cain has dominate wrestling. Which he showed against Brock. I think Cain has better wrestling than Lesnar and showcased that when they fought. He was also smaller than the behemoth. 
I think it'll be Cain decision. He won't stand there long enough to get picked apart like Carwin. His chin doesn't necessarily mean it's questionable. Some shots just have to hit right to rattle the cranium. Or hit on the right spot on the chin. 
Cardio shouldn't be an issue with Cain and I think he'll mix it up enough to overwhelm JDS. 
Roy and Carwin were too slow when they stood with JDS. Cain is a lot faster and has a lot in the tank.
Cain decision or TKO. God I hope I'm wrong. I like JDS lol.

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09.04.2011 | 8:22 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

This fight will go as follows: 1st round will be a feeling out process. JDS will stuff a couple takedown attemps and they'll do some circling. In between rounds Cain will realize he's not taking JDS down. 2nd round starts and JDS feels comfortable enough to let his hands go and does. Cain drops JDS pounces Herb Dean yells at Cain to defend himself but he can't cuz he's out. Dana puts the strap around Junior's waiste and JDS thanks his team and fans.

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09.04.2011 | 8:36 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

@p4pgoat, thats exactly what i see

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09.04.2011 | 8:52 PM ET

I don't think it'll be that easy to put Cain away. It'll be his first title defense and he'll be ready. I also think Cain is fast on the feet. So if he's in trouble it'll be on the mat. I don't know if JDS can defend Cain's take down.

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09.04.2011 | 10:02 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Ive laughed for the past 10 minutes at the posts that say JDS will defend Cains takedowns


Im sure a guy who has never wrestled competitively in his life can out-wrestle someone whos been wrestling his whole life.


Its like saying Brock would beat Big Nog in a submission grappling match. You guys are insane.

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Heroak
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09.04.2011 | 10:04 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Oh and must i say this again? Really? Ill put it in caps so you guys can read it:


CAIN TOOK BROCK DOWN


Cain took down a 60lb heavier former national champion wreslter in an MMA match.

You guys that think Cain wont take down JDS are smoking something that has killed too many brain cells.

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SoccerKick
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09.04.2011 | 10:07 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

and:
JDS STUFFED MULTIPLE TAKEDOWNS FROM A NATIONAL CHAMPION



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09.04.2011 | 10:07 PM ET

Heroak I was going to mention that and say I think Cain could even take down Brock. I don't remember it but now i do that you say it.
That's what will be the definitive outcome for this fight. I think a lot of JDS fans want to see him win this fight but the edge goes to Cain.

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Heroak
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09.04.2011 | 10:08 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

soccer you mean those weak ass shots that werent setup by punches at all? youre talking about those telegraphed shots that kimbo couldve defended right?


* Edited at 09.04.2011, 10:09 PM ET *

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09.04.2011 | 10:13 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Yeah you saw the same ones!

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Heroak
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09.04.2011 | 10:14 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Velasquez   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

oh and please dont ever compare cains wrestling to carwins. when it comes to MMA and being able to setup your takedowns cain is on a whole other level than carwin.

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09.04.2011 | 10:16 PM ET

Prediction: correct dos Santos   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

JDS is gonna take this one...with Cain getting the 2nd

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