Rousey vs. Holm

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Tired of her.  It is all about her. This is like she is looking for more attention.  This definitely did not do her any good with those who loved it when she got KTFO.

I used to be impressed by how tough and how talented she is, but compare this with someone like GSP or Anderson Silva and their attitude about being beaten. She should be chomping at the bit for a rematch. 

Awwww did little Ronda get sad after she didn't get her way? Ohh and you're thirsty? You look so thirsty for attention.

I normally would not be like this about someone who says she was thinking of suicide but I feel this is for attention.  Her on the cover and in SI at all is sickening.

Ronda is so full of ****. You'd think that someone who lost a parent to suicide would realize what a stupid and trite action that is to take, let alone mention just because you ******* lost your first fight. I know petulant five year old's that handle losing better than that.

maybe suicidal inclinations are genetic

suicide tendencies can be hereditary, but I´m not saying in her case they are ( or aren´t) to me is just more drama, trying to victimize herself so people like her again.

she is becoming very anoying to me. all I hear is whining, I haven´t heard her aknowledge Holm´s performance, except for the 2 seconds in SNL, she only tries to find different excuses for her loss.

The only thing hereditary about suicidal tendencies would be the personality traits inherited from people in her immediate environment while growing up.

With all due respect to the people posting, while I do dislike that smug ***** Ronda Rousey I don't think calling her an attention ***** for talking about her suicidal thoughts is the most objective way of looking at things.

Is she an attention *****? Yes, she has proven to be so in the past. Has she proven to be full of excuses? Definitely, though at the end of the day there is no excuse for getting utterly schooled the way she did.

But she's also human, and being undefeated was a huge part of her identity. I was actually sure that she probably contemplated suicide, like many fighters after major losses. Give a **** if you want, don't give a **** if you don't care, but don't be a hateful person by dismissing what she said about her emotional state.

At the end of the day, she's the only one who knows the truth. We shouldn't put ourselves on some ******* pedestal when assessing her, because then we become the very thing we hate in the first place. Don't be a Ronda Rousey.

environment affects our personality and she would have also some of the personality traits of her parents, but there are also genetic components that if present can make a person prone to suicidal attempts or to commit suicide.

as Anik say we have no way of knowing what she really thought in there alone. I don't question whether she thought of suicide or not. but I do wonder about her intentions as to why make it public on national tv. whatever are her reasons I still don't like her

She was only undefeated in MMA. It's not like she had never lost in Judo either.

She looks thick as usual. Her head looks tiny compared to the rest of her body.

Ronda truly is the ultimate role model. 

What better than someone who has won in athletics for nearly her entire life, a mega-star, a magazine and video game cover-athlete.. who then suffers one loss and publicly talks about wanting to kill herself. That's a good message for the kids.

Kids, when you fail the first time, play the victim and talk about wanting to die.

* Edited at 02.17.2016, 4:18 AM ET *

If Holm beats Tate, I think that we may never see the rematch.

I don't think Ronda was really contemplating suicide in a literal way nor talking about it for attention. But I don't find it surprising that a girl with a psychotic and super intense mom who's been pushing her to the extreme her whole life, who watched the calming pillar of her early life slowly waste away, then kill himself has a fragile personality.

I can see how someone as obsessed as her, who's basically built this indestructible persona and smeared it literally everywhere on the planet would have these thoughts shortly after the proverbial rug is brutally snatched from underneath her, since she felt there's no where to hide from her failure and most likely felt that all the bandwagoners had suddenly deserted her. Suddenly she was reading everywhere about what a crap fighter she is (which is complete nonsense, but was popping up all over the internet), she most likely couldn't turn on a TV or get online without finding her kicked in face plastered all over the place. You don't need to be Sigmund Freud to get how that kind of claustrophobic feeling (with the whole world being the "room caving in" on you) would lead to momentary thoughts of escaping the only way you can from the whole ******* world.

Don't think she's the type to ever actually do the deed (at least I hope she isn't), I just think it was a bipolar moment where the low was so reality-shattering that her mechanism for dealing with the initial shock was to contamplate a way out.

One thing I find disturbing about the whole thing is that she's still not allowing herself to give Holly any credit for the win. Her whole mental strength is reliant on the fact that she bends reality to suit her. Notice how she's always "I cut open my whole mouth and I knocked my teeth loose" and how she hangs on her "not being there" from the first punch (which I sort of doubt after rewatching, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt of course), I may be be reading a bit too much into it (I do that sometimes), but it seems like she's mentally blocking out Holly's role in the whole thing, as if she needs that in order to keep any sort of belief in herself. It kind of shows me that she's still as fragile as ever, but without the layer of confidence that annihilating the sport's best brings with it. I don't see her going on after another loss and I don't see her confronting reality enough to be able to fix the holes. As long as she keeps blaming that one punch and not accepting Holly as a good enough fighter to dominate her without that, she's going to just try harder to do the same things against an even more confident Holly.

* Edited at 02.17.2016, 9:36 AM ET *

After her saying that I have to live "in order to have Travis's babies", that did it in more me.

Ronda is doomed. She's not going to win the title back, and she probably is going to be

in 10 years.