Topic: Regulation, USADA, & PEDs
Fallon Fox forced retirement?
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11.15.2014 | 10:43 AM ET
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11.15.2014 | 10:52 AM ET
He would be naturally producing test.
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11.15.2014 | 10:56 AM ET
11.15.2014 | 10:59 AM ET
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11.15.2014 | 11:02 AM ET
I'm not sure it will ever come up in a commission's licensing decision, but if it does I guarantee Fallon will scream discrimination.
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11.15.2014 | 11:26 AM ET
In both sexes, the hypothalamus releases GnRH (gonadotropin-releasing hormone) to stimulate the pituitary to produce LH (luteinizing hormone) and FSH (follicle-stimulating hormone) which in turn cause the gonads to produce sex steroids even in male to female transgenders.
GnRH analogues are often prescribed to prevent the reactivation of testicular function
The high cost of GnRH analogues is often a significant factor in if someone pursues it.
I could see her situation at least brought up.
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11.15.2014 | 11:39 AM ET
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11.15.2014 | 12:47 PM ET
The issues concerning Fox fighting women have nothing to do with TRT. In about 2004, the International Olympic Committee issued guidelines on when transgender fighters may compete in the Olympics. In General, the athlete has to have gone through sex reassignment surgery and been on testosterone suppressing hormones (in the case of male-to-female changes) for a period of two years, I think.
As I understand it, some athletic commissions have essentially adopted these guidelines, which has allowed Fox to fight women, even after learning that Fox was a man. In a nutshell, there is debate over the rigor of the analysis that resulted in the IOC's guidelines, and at a minimum, there isn't a unanimous opinion in the medical community concerning male-to-female athletes having advantages over female athletes, particularly in combat sports. It's complicated by the fact Fox did not go through the surgery and hormone therapy until Fox was something like 30 years old, which means Fox went through puberty as a male, fully developing the body of a man with whatever advantages that may have for fighting. People contrast that with, let's say, a transgender male-to-female athlete who never went through puberty and therefore may not have whatever advantages that might provide a combat sport athlete.
It's an interesting debate. My personal view is that the scientific research isn't as comprehensive as it should be, and that any question should be resolved in favor of protecting the athletes participating in combat sports.
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11.15.2014 | 2:07 PM ET
Because if Fox or any athlete goes through puberty as a male then they still have larger muscle fibers and stronger ligaments (which someone please correct me if I am wrong, but neither of those change with all the surgeries/hormone ****tails).
Finally, even if organizations allow fighters who have done male-to-female operations, they still have to find women who are willing to fight them. Say what you will, but being honest here, the fight community isn't generally the most open-minded when it comes to these sort of things.
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11.15.2014 | 3:06 PM ET
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
11.15.2014 | 3:20 PM ET
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11.15.2014 | 3:24 PM ET
11.15.2014 | 4:07 PM ET
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11.15.2014 | 4:18 PM ET
I used to be against the whole Fallon fox situation, but ever since Ashley Evans Smith beat the **** out of her, I no longer feel like it's this huge advantage, she's not bulky, she's pretty averaged sized for the weight class and plenty of girls could beat her.
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That's incredibly rude to refer to Fallon Fox as a he, show some respect please.
11.15.2014 | 4:39 PM ET
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11.15.2014 | 4:43 PM ET
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11.15.2014 | 4:56 PM ET
NO
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
11.15.2014 | 4:59 PM ET
11.15.2014 | 5:01 PM ET
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset