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McGregor vs. Poirier

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Oddsbot
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07.22.2014 | 8:54 PM ET

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slamdistraction
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09.25.2014 | 11:38 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Poirier   wrong Submission   wrong Round 3  

Yeah but at this point there's almost as much in it for being the guy who could see he wasn't as good as everybody seemed to think right? Haha

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09.26.2014 | 12:13 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

Watched that McGregor video on the UFC channel and loved how not even he could say something bad about Edgar.

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09.26.2014 | 12:26 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

Let's be honest, what in the actual **** can McGregor say that's bad about Frankie Edgar?

I know I'm one of the only people in the world who believes this, but Frankie Edgar is one of the top 10 greatest fighters of all-time without a doubt.

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09.26.2014 | 12:37 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Frankie top 10 best evah? No. In your opinion, sure but in a general opinion it has to.be through record, performance and accomplishments, Frankie falls very short. 

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09.26.2014 | 1:19 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

I need more downvotes, logic and truth is too much for you braniacs.

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09.26.2014 | 1:24 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

Anik, I don't think you're alone in that. I completely agree. The fact that he fought way above what modern fighters would consider his "natural" weight class for most of his career and was a champ attests to that. 

Hell, I scored both Bendo fights for him, particularly the second. First was a toss-up. 

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09.26.2014 | 1:52 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

But being.more successful at 155 than 145 can attest to him being better suited at higher weight classes with him abusing his natural advantages better than most? It doesn't make you greater if you're small, being big has as many drawbacks and it's just a bias outlook.

I agree Frankie won the 2nd.Bendo fight, the first.Bendo and Penn fight...who knows.  He lost to Aldo.and looked bad vs Oliveira. If you ask me, OF all time I debatable but you're putting him in there over Liddell, Hughes, BJ Penn, Velasquez, Royce, Weidman(with a win over Vitor comfortably is above Edgar), Shogun, Sakuraba, ect ect as GSP, Fedor, Anderson, Jones and Aldo.can't really.be.argued as.above him.

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09.26.2014 | 2:00 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Fighting a weight class above may have been an advantage in his case. No weight cutting giving him a clear cardio advantage and his speed advantage. Just like he won the Bendo fights, refs could've easily stopped at least one of the Maynard fights (earlier stoppages happen on a weekly basis) so coulda-woulda shouldn't be in these kinds of discussions. Top 10 all-time is a bit more clear cut, imo.

Frankie hasn't looked too hot at 145 either, not bad but definitely not too hot and you guys are saying top 10 all-time, and I think I saw you (@skelli) say in another thread that you don't think he beats Cub Swanson because he relies on his speed advantage too much (I may be wrong). Top 10 all-time isn't considered a favourite to beat Cub Swanson while in his prime? A tad contradictory. I know styles make fights, but if you're putting someone in the all-time top 10 list he's supposed to transcend that rule. At least in his prime, at least when not fighting another dude who's in the top 10 all-time list or current top 10 p4p list (please don't tell me Cub's top 10 all-time too).

Don't get me wrong, Frankie is awesome in so many ways and definitely one of the best the game has ever seen, but I think he's fringe top 10 all-time but doesn't quite make the cut. A guy who has very little chance to get the belt in both the divisions he's fought in while he's still in his prime can't be top 10 all-time ... 

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09.26.2014 | 2:14 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

By the way, I noticed McGregor doesn't ever throw Frankie's name when shooting down all top featherweights before and thought about it a while back too ... I think it's because Conor knows that **** won't phase Edgar or get into his head. McGregor has a lot of respect for most fighters but he treats them all as rivals and starts getting into their heads using their egos as the entry point long before they actually fight.

That way he both gets them on board selling the fight when they do meet (because now they hate him) and has what he considers the first advantage and first step to getting the mental edge.

He's smart enough to know that **** doesn't really work on Frankie and would most likely be shrugged off by a level-headed vet who's been to the show a few times.

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09.26.2014 | 2:30 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Poirier   wrong Submission   wrong Round 3  

Was such a tense staredown I can't wait for this! It's gonna be so sick. Poirier seems fired up but I hope Mcgregor isn't in his head too much.

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09.26.2014 | 8:29 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

NO... NO... NOTORIOUS!

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Anik
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09.26.2014 | 8:56 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

@Nomad Oh it's definitely my opinion. I'm actually kinda shocked that I got 6 thumbs up whereas you got 4 thumbs down for what you said, I did NOT expect that. Until today, I was sure that the consensus agreed with you but now, I don't know.

I remember like a year ago when I said the same thing and I was thumbed down to oblivion, it's kind of weird how people's opinions change so drastically in such little time.

Regardless of the advantages given with no weight cut there are a very select few who have managed to have success without cutting weight; if the advantages of not cutting weight were very high, more fighters would do it don't you think? I mean, how many other fighters from the modern era do you know that have had a decent amount of success without cutting weight? Frankie Edgar, Dan Henderson and Jake Shields, I can't think of anyone else. In my eyes, Frankie Edgar is like an American Kazushi Sakuraba only he's been able to stay at an extremely high level for a very long time.

Just think about it, Frankie Edgar has NEVER fought someone of his size before. He's a small featherweight and he's one of the smallest (if not the smallest) lightweight ever. Despite this, he's managed to be a champion and remain in the top 2 of his division for a long time. He gave the best fighter in the world the hardest fight of his career while giving up a huge size advantage. Despite being 32 years old Frankie Edgar is still a force to be reckoned with it, and Conor McGregor knows that.

Frankie Edgar is the ****. Don't **** with Frankie Edgar.

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09.26.2014 | 9:26 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Poirier   wrong Decision  

Edgar is underrated. I believe he beat Be do the second time. He is also as tough as they come.

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Anik
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09.26.2014 | 9:50 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

If Frankie Edgar went back up to 155 he'd be the champion again, no doubt about it; I think he and Aldo can beat Anthony Pettis with ease to be honest.

Again, another unpopular opinion but I honestly believe that without a doubt.

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09.26.2014 | 9:56 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

^ I agree 100%  Edgar would Wrestle**** the **** out of Pettis

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09.26.2014 | 9:58 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Edgar vs Khabib = cum pants.

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Anik
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09.26.2014 | 10:18 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

People seem to forget that Clay Guida schooled Anthony Pettis like 3 fights before Pettis became champion, and Guida isn't even that great of a wrestler.

Edgar vs Khabib would be an extremely hard fight to call and I'm not the man to do so.

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09.26.2014 | 10:34 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

I love how the guida fight gets brushed under the rug.  We all know Pettit can't wrestle.  The first high level wrestler he fights he loses IMHO.  I don't see him getting a submission off on a guy like khabib.

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09.26.2014 | 10:46 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   wrong Decision  

At least give Pettis credit where credit is due, he is excellent off of his back.

He's also a extremely high level athlete (arguably the most athletic in the UFC, next to Jones and Weidman of course) so for all that we know, his wrestling could be 10x better than it was 4 fights ago.

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09.26.2014 | 11:38 AM ET

Prediction: correct McGregor   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  

I think Pettis is overrated off his back. I called the Guida loss and was flamed hard for it before the fight. He is good for sure, and very opportunistic; but IMO if some one has him down and just minds their Ps and Qs they will be fine. I think he was have a great fight with anyone though cause he is just a really good fighter. His striking is some top notch stuff. I think he will have problems with any high level wrestler though. 

Edgar is an awesome fighter, but for a guy whose entire fight game is based on his speed and toughness aging is going to be very hard. I think he will begin to slide in the next couple years, maybe sooner.

Can't wait for this fight though. HELL YEAH!

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