Topic: Brandão vs. Chope

Brandao vs. Chope

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02.19.2014 | 6:29 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Decision

This is the official discussion thread for Brandao vs. Chope. Let's see what you've got.

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03.23.2014 | 9:48 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

Chope also wrote a message to his fans on FB . about the Wife thing .


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=750818568284861

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03.23.2014 | 9:54 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

MMAJunkie is reporting he's cut too .

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/03/after-past-comes-to-light-will-chope-pulled-from-ufc-fight-night-38-lineup/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


He just posted this on his FB

Will "The Kill" Chope

My fight has been canceled for a 5 year old mistake I made. I am truly sorry to all the fans and will do everything I can to make this right. I have spoken with my ex-wife on the phone and she supports what I am doing and together we will make a formal press release as soon as I get back to the USA on Wednesday.


* Edited at 03.23.2014, 9:55 AM ET *

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03.23.2014 | 9:55 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

***? This is indeed ********. Make a ******* backround check before you sign fighters, not pull them from a fight 5 minutes before it happens.

Those guys went thru a training camp, weight cut and so on...

Also those double standards, Abel Trujillo, Gustafsson, Manuwa, Jeremy Stephens all get a pass but **** Chope?


* Edited at 03.23.2014, 10:34 AM ET *

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03.23.2014 | 9:58 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 2

They could of at least let him get his ass kicked before cutting him.
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03.23.2014 | 10:30 AM ET

Prediction: Chope  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

what the **** cancelling a fight on fight day this was the lock of the card!
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03.23.2014 | 10:48 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Threatens to stab his wife 5 years ago (which is a **** move don't get me wrong) - cut on fight night.

Threatens to stab a fellow employee - get's to fight, get's a quick turnaround, will probably also get his show money.

UFC logic.

I wonder what they'd do if Jon Jones ever slapped his missus around or something ...

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03.23.2014 | 10:58 AM ET

Prediction: Chope  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 3

I don't condone what Chope did at all, it's bad and shouldn't happen but it was 5 years ago, he was 18-19 years old and since then as far as we know has had no problems. I'm willing to bet most of the people ****ting on him would've reacted similarly in his situation; the stress of military, the mother of his child being a floozy and sleeping around while he's overseas and ******* up his money.

Meanwhile Trujillo has similar charges, Gustafsson spent 15 months in prison for aggravated assault during his teens, Stephens getting into bar fights, Rumble Johnson has had domestic violence issues, Bones driving drunk, the list goes on, yet they are still on the roster and many of them are headlining cards and hyped out the ass. Not saying that Chope shouldn't be cut, but be consistent.

* Edited at 03.23.2014, 10:58 AM ET *

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03.23.2014 | 11:11 AM ET

Prediction: Chope  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

he must of hidden it from them thats what they get angry about, the part of the form that says criminal history u shouldnt leave blank if its possible it could come to haunt u
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03.23.2014 | 11:15 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

EXACTLY! 

And why even go that far? They're actually cancelling his fight against a dude that JUST DID EXACTLY THAT (threaten stabbing) ... AT THE WORKPLACE (i.e. under their direct supervision and responsibility, not years ago somewhere else) ... LESS THAN 3 ******* MONTHS AGO (not 5 years ago, not when he was 17 years old) -- how can they not see how hypocritical this looks???????

* Edited at 03.23.2014, 11:34 AM ET *

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03.23.2014 | 11:18 AM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

The ******** thing isn't the lack of Background checks but that they cut a guy.on such.hypocritical grounds...Gus, Manuwa, Guillard, Varner, Stephens and PLENTY others have done **** as bad, hell look at Mark Walberg or Bernard Hopkins....This is ******** and if we had a union they could never do this to a guy. Don't start with " He withheld it from UFC, that's why" its public ******* knowledge and he was 18...I seriously doubt he tried to hide it. Also disallowing former racist white gang members, cool the UFC has never had a non white ethnic man who was a racist gang member though....sure they have.

* Edited at 03.23.2014, 11:20 AM ET *

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03.23.2014 | 12:51 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Decision

I don't believe people are their worst moments.

This happened five years ago. Brandao threatened to stab Dustin, what?, five months ago?

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03.23.2014 | 2:02 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

This makes zero sense. I wanted to see Brandao fight, I don't like him personally but his style of fighting and his BJJ skills are great. 

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03.23.2014 | 2:39 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

Let the fight go on. If Chope wins, you can cut TWO psychos, and more importantly the guy who threatened to stab someone first, and while at a UFC sponsored weigh in. Instead of doing this, because they want Brandao to be a top 10 featherweight so bad because of his TUF win they completely make the wrong decision, pull the fight on super short notice, contradict themselves, make themselves look like hypocrites, and the ones who suffer most are the fans. Let them fight, disqualify them both from FoTN or PoTN bonuses and cut them both at the post fight press conference. They've already let Chope fight once in the UFC. Why the crazy overreaction now?
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03.23.2014 | 2:56 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1


I would've just let the fight go on, Brandao probably would've beaten Chope. UFC releases him, no one bats an eye.
They did kinda kick Thiago Silva out for the same thing. Only a knife instead of a gun. But the UFC probably canceled the fight because if they let the fight go on and word got out about this guy the headlines are gonna read "UFC knowingly employs wife beater".

Plus there is the misconception that all fighters are "psychos". Doesn't look good. It sucks for Brandao, but I see the UFC's reasoning behind cancelling the fight.

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03.23.2014 | 3:01 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 2

Personally I disagree over all this nitpicking over fighters criminal histories, offensive tweets and what ever other dirt they can dig. It's not like they are politicians or teacher.. well even they are probably allowed to be a little dirtier. Other pro sports have had their share of criminals without these hyper sensitive witch hunts. Dana White is also a huge Mike Tyson fan who ****d a girl and beat his own mama.

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03.23.2014 | 3:02 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

The UFC DOES knowingly employ wife beaters though. Why this fight? Why now?
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03.23.2014 | 3:09 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Abel Trujillo did the same **** and he's still around.  This is ridiculous.  UFC setting a double-standard once again.
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03.23.2014 | 3:10 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Jones - in all serious can you please list who you're thinking of? I don't want to support them if its been established that they are.

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03.23.2014 | 3:15 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  Submission  |  Round 1

Read, Live2wrestle, Nomad, and Dielegende's post on this page. They covered it before I mentioned it, so giving credit to them. The main ones I was referring to were Trujillo and Rumble.
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03.23.2014 | 3:39 PM ET

Prediction: Brandão  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Let's not forget UFC employed Gilbert Yvel after he punched a referee out then punted him, got disqualified in Pride FC bouts, and there is an old video of Gilbert having a confrontation with his opponent where he ends up going up near the guys motel room with his coaches following him ending up taking a knife away from him because Gilbert Yvel was gonna stab him. 



Confrontation starts at 1 minute and 5 seconds

* Edited at 03.23.2014, 3:45 PM ET *

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