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skeet2b
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07.18.2011 | 4:11 PM ET

A few months ago i posted on Sherdog that if Overeem came to the UFC he would get beat by JDS, Cain and Lesnar and everyone acted like i was rediculous for saying it,  I still think he wouldnt be top 3 in the UFC and was wondering what everyone on here thought

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skeet2b
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07.18.2011 | 5:52 PM ET

yea more than anyone i want to see him come to the UFC, I think he matches up well with a lot of the guys there, and there are some good strikers in the UFC to give him a fight

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07.18.2011 | 6:22 PM ET

@skeet I want to see him against kongo barry jds carwin and cain.  Maybe struve just for fun.

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07.18.2011 | 6:25 PM ET

@Piercer you don't like Struve!?! Want to see him go to sleep again!?!

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07.18.2011 | 7:37 PM ET

yea I wanna see him fight Kongo and if he can get a win then JDS depending on who has the belt. I really dont want to see him fight Lesnar or Carwin

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07.18.2011 | 10:10 PM ET

I think Overeem is slightly better then JDS in the striking department. However JDS looks better and better everytime he fights and his competetion is getting stronger. That says so much to me. After JDS beats Cain if Overeem deserves it him and JDS for the title would be such an awesome fight. I think JDS would take it though.

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07.18.2011 | 10:21 PM ET

K-1 I think Overeem destroys any MMA HW out there...Same with Badr Hari...Boxing I think JDS is the best in MMA and beats any MMA HW in a boxing match...JDS still couldn't beat the top level HW boxers though

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07.19.2011 | 12:51 AM ET

okay put it this way. OVereem was getting out striked by Werdum in some of their fight .... now go on youtube and google Werdum v Dos Santos .. :D         
yeah overeem was good in K1 but i dont care i think JDS and his boxing could DESTROY overeem.

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07.19.2011 | 6:35 AM ET


Absolutely, if Werdum can make contact, so can Cain and JDS, and you don't want those guys making contact.

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07.19.2011 | 6:40 AM ET

@Soccerkick.. JDS boxing isnt actually that good... It is good like but he leaves himself open alot when throwing hooks..

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07.19.2011 | 8:16 AM ET

"@Soccerkick.. JDS boxing isnt actually that good... It is good like but he leaves himself open alot when throwing hooks.."
His boxing is extremely good. Yes some overrate it, but his boxing is clearly one of the best if not the best in MMA. (vitor is another who comes to mind).

Everyone leaves them self open while throwing hooks, also what do you constitute as open? JDS, does not block punches most of the time, he dodges them. I think u misunderstand leaving one open and using control movement. Simply because he does not keep his hands up, does not equate to poor defense, because he rarely gets hit. He utilizes movement instead of blocking punches, which is in many cases more difficult and better skill to have.

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07.19.2011 | 8:31 AM ET

Yeah I suppose your right he kinda does it like Anderson Silva.. And I meant his striking his boxing is probably the best in hw division but I dont think he is the best striker in the division technically..

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07.19.2011 | 9:01 AM ET

i think overeem thinks bigfoot silva could take his strikes and he could not take silva's strikes. i think he got scared of sivla after the fedor fight.
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07.19.2011 | 9:02 AM ET

I agree hes ducking bigfoot!

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07.19.2011 | 1:14 PM ET

There's kickboxing for kickboxing, boxing for boxing, and then there's kickboxing or boxing for MMA.  To say that a guy has the best boxing in the UFC could be saying something completely different depending on what you see.  I don't think that JDS has the best boxing for boxing by any stretch, but in MMA, he's in the top 5. 

If you take JDS out of MMA and put him in a kickboxing ring against the likes of Overeem, then of course I'd put my money on Overeem winning the bout.  However, in MMA with the threats of takedowns and submissions, I'd say that JDS has the advantage. 

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07.19.2011 | 1:30 PM ET

@rwlawman i agree with how you said that but i still think overeem is a bit better.

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07.19.2011 | 4:24 PM ET

if we're just talking striking i don't think this is even close, you can't be a better striker than a k1 champion when you only throw punches.  i think cain is a more complete striker, he has good boxing jds may have better but its not as much better as ppl make it out to be. and cain using leg kicks very well....if jds threw leg kicks and just kicks period on a regular basis he'd be a lot better

regardless, overeem is head and shoulders the best pure striker in the heavyweight division....and until another mma hw wins a legit striking tournament its really not even a discussion

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07.19.2011 | 4:44 PM ET


I'd put JDS above Overeem in any situation, JDS knows how not to get hit, Overeem just throws bombs.

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07.19.2011 | 7:20 PM ET

You have to do a lot more than throw bombs to win in k1

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07.19.2011 | 7:26 PM ET

yeah you don't win k1 by only throwing bombs, you defintitely have to know how to keep from gettin hit to be succesfull in k1

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07.19.2011 | 7:28 PM ET

I don't at all. Look at how Overreem won. He through almost all power strikes, barely any combination if memory serves me right. I think K1 is extremely overrated and Overreem may be as overrated as they come, in terms of striking. JDS would put him away and brutally. 

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