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Oddsbot
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03.28.2013 | 2:52 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong Decision  

This is the official discussion thread for Roop vs. Bowles. Let's see what you've got.

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poir420
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06.07.2013 | 4:45 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

The only thing worse then getting caught cheating is getting caught cheating and you lost the damn fight!


Jason Floyd ‏@Jason_Floyd 4m

Keith Kizer has announced that everyone on the UFC 160 card passed their drug test besides Bowles. He had elevated levels of testosterone

CageReligion.com MMA ‏@CageReligion 2m

Also, per Kizer, Bowles' T/E levels were 20:1. Keep in mind Overeem tested at a 14:1.

* Edited at 06.07.2013, 4:51 PM ET *

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06.07.2013 | 4:55 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

That's gotta make Roop feel even better about that win. Would not be surprised if Bowles gets cut soon. Or after another loss. But regardless, this can't be good.
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06.07.2013 | 4:59 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

This goes in the books as another fighter who took steroids and still lost. Which brings to mind the question, if it's believed that steroids give you an unfair advantage, then what is it called when you lose? I ask this question to Stefan Bonnar, Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, Thiago Silva, Chael Sonnen, Josh Barnett, along with so many others, and now you can add Brian Bowles to that list who have lost their fights and tested positive for steroids or elevated levels of testosterone. At this point you have to wonder are steroids are an advantage or disadvantage? ****, is it even worth it?

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06.07.2013 | 5:11 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong Decision  

He must have drank bull shark semen.
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06.07.2013 | 5:21 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

"Which brings to mind the question, if it's believed that steroids give you an unfair advantage, then what is it called when you lose?"

an unfair advantage.
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06.07.2013 | 5:24 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

What was Bowles doing during his injury time?  Eating Horsemeat with Overeem and taking Supplements with Sean  Sherk.  If you getting as many injuries as Brian was there is only so much fighting the human body can do before it starts to wear it down.  And,  frankly, being on TRT doesn't make you a better fighter than the other guy.  The only top 10 guy I know of in the UFC coming off of wins is Vitor Belfort. And sure some of it's the TRT but TRT isn't what made Vitor Belfort such a finisher. 
amp112
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06.07.2013 | 5:28 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Speaking of Sherk, I love how BJ Penn dealt with the whole Sherk steroids thing. I remember he said something like "Sean Sherk's weakness is that he needs to take steroids to win". Penn is awesome...
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06.07.2013 | 5:32 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

If i KO'd a guy who was later found to be full of roids, i'd feel pretty damn awesome.

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06.08.2013 | 1:24 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Not only did Brian Bowles take steroids and lose, he took steroids and lost to George Roop. Now I'm not knocking Roop as a fighter. He's a very tough competitor, but he wasn't even considered a top 10 fighter. If I were in Bowles position, I would feel like such a horse's ass. Bowles failed the drug test for elevated testosterone levels and lost to a fighter who wasn't even considered a top 10 fighter. It looks to me like Roop is a far better fighter than I and many others have given him credit for. He knocked out a top contender in Brian Bowles on steroids. Got to feel ******* damn good about that!!!!

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06.08.2013 | 2:44 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Roop is at a new weight class. Look what happened to Maia when he went down a weight class. He went from losing to Mark Munoz to dominating Jon Fitch
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06.08.2013 | 3:08 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Bowles   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

@ amp112 - Going down in weight doesn't always help a fighter. My belief is, if you don't have the skills at 170, you're not going to do much better at 155 if you don't improve on your skillset as a fighter. There are rare occassions where I think that moving weight classes is a better fit for a fighter. Like Michael Bisping, Demian Maia, Frankie Edgar, BJ Penn, Diego Sanchez, Clay Guida, and Demetrious Johnson going down a weight class makes sense. They were too small for the heavier weight class that they were fighting at before.

Often times I see a fighter cutting weight because they think that they will have a tremendous size advantage, and that will help them to further achieve their goals of becoming a champion or at least a top contender. Kenny Florian, Aaron Simpson, Joey Beltran, Rich Franklin, Anthony Johnson, Wilson Gouveia, Drew McFedries, Nate Marquardt, Tyson Griffin, Joe Stevenson, Travis Wiuff, Mark Coleman, and Kevin Randleman are examples of this.

More often than not changing weight classes, but not improving on their skillset as a fighter usually has adverse affects on a fighter's career with new obstacles that they didn't anticipate, which only makes their fights that much more difficult.

With all that said, I honestly have to admit that I felt that Roop cutting to 135 wasn't going to be a good fit for him. That he was another fighter cutting weight to have a considerable size advantage to make up for his lack of skill as a fighter. Also with that since he wasn't a top 10 fighter at 145, cutting weight to 135 still puts him in the same category. I can also admit that I was wrong about Roop cutting to 135. I agree that Roop is now a different fighter at 135. His win over Bowles definitely proved that, but for Bowles to not only fail the the drug screen with elevated testosterone levels, but to lose by getting KTFO'd to a fighter who wasn't a top 10 fighter along with failing the drug screen has to make him feel absolutely ashamed of himself.

If I were Roop, I'd feel damn proud of myself. Roop silenced the naysayers (such as myself), and defeated a top 5 135er on steroids by devastating KO.  

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