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Guillard vs. Varner

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Oddsbot
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12.15.2012 | 10:52 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong Decision  

This is the official discussion thread for Guillard vs. Varner. Let's see what you've got.

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jodybanman
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12.29.2012 | 12:28 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

Guillard has amazing physical talent, but has always lacked the maturity and wherewithal to optimize it.  

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amp112
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12.29.2012 | 12:33 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Thanks man. The parts I saw were towards the end, where he said cool, i'll take the fight and "i ain't upset". Usually when I see things like this, I figure it's hyping the fight, but I see why he would be mad.
DietDrPepper
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12.29.2012 | 6:43 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

Guillard gets overconfident, Varner rocks him and subs him in the first.
MMA4LIFE00
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12.29.2012 | 11:43 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

I have a feeling Guillard is gonna run right into a big shot and Varner's gonna finish him either with ground and pound or sub him.
PRIDEIrish
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12.29.2012 | 12:27 PM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Im not trying to bash Melivin but I dont see him winning this at all, Varners nickname is C-4 for a reason and Melvin's chin isnt very durable. Plus Id give the ground advantage to Varner IF Melvin can get it to the ground
joe kerr
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12.31.2012 | 1:56 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

On a final note regarding the ridiculous judging - turns out it was just like I was guessing in the UFC 155 thread. The same judge who scored the Garcia-Nam Phan fight in favour of Garcia missed the first half of the event and started judging with this particular fight. She was the one who gave all 3 rounds to Melvin and it was no mistake in names or adding. She scored it like that for real.

She is also the one who scored Belcher-Akiyama 30-27 for Akiyama.

* Edited at 12.31.2012, 3:46 AM ET *

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DelRose
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12.31.2012 | 2:07 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

The idiot who scored it 30-27 for Melvin should be fired without pay. 

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joe kerr
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12.31.2012 | 2:12 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

She also judges boxing fights and is known for screwing those too.

"If the enemy rejects the ground, I would take him down by tackle. Why didn’t he [Royler] do so? May I introduce him to a good coach? His tackle was... like a girl’s one... Mr. Royler, how are you feeling?" - Kazushi Sakuraba

DelRose
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12.31.2012 | 2:17 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

Women man.. no offence..

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cal1
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12.31.2012 | 10:21 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  


The 30-27 score for Guillard was crazy. Did she also judge the Wineland/Pickett bout? That should have been a unanimous for Wineland IMO

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joe kerr
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12.31.2012 | 10:27 AM ET

Prediction: correct Varner   wrong Submission   wrong Round 1  

This one isn't on her actually. Wineland-Pickett was judged by Tony Weeks (30-27 Wineland), Glenn Trowbridge (30-27 Wineland) and Mark Smith - he gave it to Pickett 29-28.

"If the enemy rejects the ground, I would take him down by tackle. Why didn’t he [Royler] do so? May I introduce him to a good coach? His tackle was... like a girl’s one... Mr. Royler, how are you feeling?" - Kazushi Sakuraba

amp112
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12.31.2012 | 12:15 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

It's high time that boxing and MMA have separate judges. They should have some kind of test. You pass both tests, fine you can judge both, but you have to know better than to judge MMA like boxing
TheTnuggs
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12.31.2012 | 12:21 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

@amp112 agreed, i think they need a 15 point system to, or at least overhaul the 10 point system greatly.  then again you cant fix stupid and i think some of the judges in L.A are stupid

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12.31.2012 | 12:23 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong Decision  

This judging **** is seriously ridiculous. It's such a disaster, especially if you have two judges giving all three rounds to one guy, and the other judge scoring it three rounds to the other fighter. Ridiculous.

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amp112
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12.31.2012 | 12:55 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

I don't think the problem is with the 10 pt system. It is with the way the judges utilize it. 

1. We need more 10-10 and 10-8 rounds
2. We need judges who actually know what they're watching.

I love that Ricardo Almeida is judging events. I hope more ex-fighters follow suit.
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12.31.2012 | 6:18 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Guillard   wrong Decision  

agree with everything in that post @amp

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