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Do you think fedor would have the same legendary status if he came to the UFC and lost
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05.05.2011 | 4:24 PM ET
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05.05.2011 | 4:27 PM ET
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
05.05.2011 | 4:43 PM ET
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05.05.2011 | 4:47 PM ET
I agree a move to LHW would be a good move for him especially with guys like overeem
"A true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for *******"
05.05.2011 | 4:48 PM ET
"I really feel like I'm the most dangerous guy out there" BJ Penn........... UFC on Fox 2 event winner :)
05.05.2011 | 4:52 PM ET
Fedor and Mirko will always be remembered but Fedor will just have a big question mark over his career. Because he hasn't tested himself with other competition which is his burden. Not us fans. It's his choice and at least him and Mirko have been in wars in the past and are still competing .I'm glad to have grown up seeing these guys fight and won't judge how they fall. It's what they've shown that makes them so great imo.
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 4:58 PM ET
"I really feel like I'm the most dangerous guy out there" BJ Penn........... UFC on Fox 2 event winner :)
05.05.2011 | 5:40 PM ET
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 5:52 PM ET
"A true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for *******"
05.05.2011 | 6:00 PM ET
We can all hope for his left kick cemetary!
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 6:08 PM ET
"A true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for *******"
05.05.2011 | 6:11 PM ET
I think the one memorable knockout I remember being vicious is when Jason Lambert faced Rashad and he was getting pummeled from full mount and was looking at the camera. You could see his eyes rolling back. It was unfortunate to watch sometimes. I know they are professionals but Mirko and Randy are memorable icons to a vast majority of the mma community. It's sad to see them and other fighters getting knocked out sometimes as well.
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 6:14 PM ET
He was knocking out Tito, Vernon White, Randy, Jeremy Horn, Babalu... all good fighters, but not all the stiffest challenges.
What if instead he was fighting Rampage, Arona, Shogun, Prime Little Nog, Hendo. And maybe he won some and lost some. There wouldn't have been any long championship reign and he would just be another of the very good light heavyweights.
I'm not sure where the what-if game stops.
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05.05.2011 | 6:21 PM ET
It's all about circumstances and who fighters have fought in their time and take it for what it's worth. The what if's can be thought out all day and that's what makes you appreciate the fighters and what they've accomplished like I've said.
Very solid point though Gregory.
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 6:43 PM ET
But if Fedor was to be considered not a legend, that is due to ignorance. While some may say his competiton has been medicore overall, there is no taking away that he went on a 28 fight win streak (excluding the 1 no contest with Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira) that included beating the likes of Renato Sobral, Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira, Heath Herring, Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira, Mark Coleman, Mirko Filipović, who were at one time or another serious competition. His nine year Reign as #1 Heavyweight and P4P king (though both became disputable near the time he would go on to suffer his first serious loss) is something that is not likely to be recreated in a long time.
It's like Mike Tyson. The man is now known for being crazy and f***ed up, a has-been and nearer the end of his boxing career had seen better days. But those "better days" are still remembered as an era where Tyson was invincible as he tore through the heavyweight diversion. Many Americans are still waiting for the next Mike Tyson to appear, to take back the Heavyweight diversion back to the glory days when American boxers were king.
But I digress The point is Fedor will still be remembered as a legend for all his feats that he's acheived. In fact his future losses (if that happens) will be more painful because of that.
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05.05.2011 | 6:52 PM ET
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
05.05.2011 | 7:07 PM ET
" I told ya so" !!
05.05.2011 | 7:49 PM ET
I think the worst thing for Fedor's legacy is M-1 global.
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05.05.2011 | 7:53 PM ET
"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"
05.06.2011 | 12:10 AM ET
do i think it hurts his legendary status? **** no, he's Fedor.
Crocop, Nog, Wand, etc. all did less than mediocre is their UFC careers. But its there legendary fights in pride that made them so popular. Fedor's reign of terror may be over, but that doesn't mean at one point he wasn't the best.
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05.06.2011 | 2:17 AM ET
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