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10.16.2012 | 3:14 PM ET
Looks like they will fight on April 27th
* Edited at 10.16.2012, 3:24 PM ET *
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10.17.2012 | 4:51 PM ET
^bieber is right **** this fight!
These automatic titleshots for guy just entering (or re-entering) divisions is ridiculous, Vitor, Edgar was gonna get one (which was the least bad matches made outta the bunch, but still) and now Sonnen. What's next if Condit loses to GSP can he move up to MW and claim his shot?
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10.17.2012 | 4:55 PM ET
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10.17.2012 | 4:59 PM ET
^Maia was 6-1 in the UFC going into his title shot, you mean he was only on a 1 fight win streak perhaps?
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10.17.2012 | 9:46 PM ET
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10.17.2012 | 11:18 PM ET
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10.17.2012 | 11:35 PM ET
I don't see too much to complain about here, as Henderson, the only challenger currently deserving a title shot(that Jones has not already beaten anyway) is already scheduled to fight Machida. It's not as though someone else is losing their opportunity because of Sonnen.
Don't get me wrong, he doesn't deserve another title shot at a weight he hasn't competed in for many years. But neither did Belfort. Sometimes circumstances dictate **** like that.
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10.18.2012 | 12:16 AM ET
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10.18.2012 | 5:25 AM ET
I will almost certainly be in the Greater NY/NJ area on that weekend.
Maybe the Prudential Center in Newark - where not for nothing Jones beat Shogun to win the belt?
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10.18.2012 | 7:25 AM ET
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10.18.2012 | 1:01 PM ET
Here's my take on the whole shebang ...
I think that Sonnen "deserving" an immediate title at LHW is exactly the same as Edgar's claim to an immediate shot at FW, yet everyone's mouth was watering when that fight was setup (myself included).
Did they care that Koch was promised the fight and injured and now would have to wait (the same as Dan Henderson)? Did they care that there already was a line of deserving contenders ahead of him (Zombie for instance)? No. Everyone wanted to see Aldo vs. Edgar. Edgar who hasn't ever fought in FW and had just lost two title fights, while not losing to anyone that isn't champion in his former division for a long time (remind you of someone? *cough* Sonnen *cough*).
The ONLY differences are, first, that Edgar is the LW former champ. But, since that's FORMER I don't think it should come into consideration and second, that people actually give Edgar a chance to win the fight as opposed to Chael.
The truth of the matter is that after UFC 151 cancellation, Dana already said that Hendo's going to have to fight Machida, Rua is already fighting Gustafsson, Jones is out (so why not save TUF while he's injured instead of him being completely "inactive") and who better than Chael Sonnen to coach against him to make this season epic?
It just makes sense.
Now, if Chael was a total crap (pardon my french) fighter, then maybe the outrage would be justified, but the fact is, that Chael most likely beats Rua and Hendo (in my opinion of course - if Jake Shields took Hendo down at will, think of what Chael would do to him, plus Chael's cardio vs. Hendo's lack thereof takes the cake) and I'm not 100% sure he loses to Machida and Rashad (though I'd probably bet against him in those fights) which makes him a legitimate contender. Not a "deserving" one, but a legitimate one. Add that to the fact that all of the above have lost badly to Jones (except for Hendo who is injured) and you now have an interesting TUF season, great build-up to the fight and a fresh face for Jones to pound (But hey, who cares about that? Let's focus on the negative and cry about it). To top it all, this is exactly the fight everyone was blasting Jones for not taking and were all asking for right until ... well, until they actually got it. That's MMA fans for you now, isn't it? I mean, Jones said he's not going to let Sonnen talk his way into a fight, EVERYONE said he's a b**tch, scared of Sonnen, blah blah blah ... Now Sonnen gets the fight and those SAME PEOPLE are saying that Sonnen doesn't deserve the fight and has talked himself into a title shot!!! So tell me, is there ANY way to do right by MMA fans? Me thinks not.
I actually like it and the rest of the contenders haven't REALLY done enough to be crying, none of them have REALLY been amazing of late, so they'll just need to wait a few months and they'll all get their chance if they earn it.
Now as for the whole "deserving" a shot thing ... tell me now, who in LHW REALLY deserves a shot?
Rashad? Just lost to Jones.
Machida? One win against Ryan "The Greates Fighter on Earth" Bader removed from being dropped like a lifeless corpse by Jones. Mind=Blown (<- sarcasm)
Rua? Lost his last fight to Hendo. Lost badly to Jones when they were both younger, he was better and Jones wasn't as good as he is now.
Hendo? He hasn't even recovered from his injury yet!!
Gustafsson? He needs to beat Rua first.
Glover? Well, sure, beat Kingsbu and Maldonado - get a title shot. That makes sense. (<- sarcasm)
The truth of the matter is, no, Chael doesn't deserve the shot, but taking all things into consideration, it's not such a bad idea and it doesn't "turn the UFC into the WWE" or any other sort of rubbish I've been reading everywhere.
* Edited at 10.18.2012, 1:09 PM ET *
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10.18.2012 | 1:08 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 1:12 PM ET
The reason he's even considered were his marketability AND 5 (4 1/2 in the first fight and 1 in the second) amazing rounds against the GOAT who's also the guy everyone wants to see against ... you guessed right ... the same Jon Jones (this doesn't mean I think this means he'll dominate Jones the same way, just saying that if many think Silva can beat Jones and Chael dominated Silva you have to agree that Sonnen/Jones isn't totally left-field).
Once again, I'm not saying he's the deserving #1 contender, I'm just saying that taking into consideration EVERYTHING that's going on, it's not such a preposterous idea and it doesn't de-legitimize anything.
* Edited at 10.18.2012, 1:20 PM ET *
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10.18.2012 | 1:38 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 1:40 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:00 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:02 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:08 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:14 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:18 PM ET
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10.18.2012 | 2:28 PM ET
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