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GNARMOSHTHRASH
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05.24.2012 | 7:07 PM ET

My Opinion is short bet let em juice if fighters don't or want to that's there choice its in the sport more than we know so lets just let them do it instead of possibly ruining there career cause they were trying to reach there maximum athletic potential.But i wanna hear your guys opinion on this.

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legacyofmisfortune
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05.24.2012 | 7:11 PM ET

ha ha ha ha, good one!

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Russello
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05.24.2012 | 7:13 PM ET

Welcome to the forums! I hope people dont just thumbs down your post cause they dont agree :P I personally dont want PEDs in the sport. Not in all of it anyways. In a perfect world, I'd have the UFC and all promotions steriod free, then one promotion called Steroid Wars in which everyone was on steroids and over 350 pounds.

 

All in all though, i'd rather it was clean and legit.

 

* Edited at 05.24.2012, 7:13 PM ET *

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GNARMOSHTHRASH
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05.24.2012 | 7:14 PM ET

Steroid Wars Sounds Epic
Live2wrestle
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05.24.2012 | 7:18 PM ET

I am rather neutral on the whole PED/steroid issue. On one hand it's kind of not fair to have an unfair advantage but on the other hand it wouldnt be an unfair advantage if it was legal. Some supplements blur the line between just being a supplement and being a PED anyways. There are safer substances than PEDs/Steroids but Im kinda leaning towards if you believe the reward outweighs the risk then you should be allowed to take what you want. I personally wouldnt use steroids (unless it was for a medical condition that requires them).

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OldNick
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05.24.2012 | 7:23 PM ET

They should be forced to take them. We as fans should be able to see the biggest mutant freak giants science can create.

* Edited at 05.24.2012, 7:23 PM ET *

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05.24.2012 | 7:49 PM ET




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Kalibo
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05.24.2012 | 7:51 PM ET

Can you imagine what that dude is going to look like when he is 60?

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HavokDM
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05.24.2012 | 7:55 PM ET

@Kalibo:



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LynxGuy
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05.24.2012 | 7:58 PM ET

I think as long as there are still fighters who don't feel the need to take steroids in order to compete at a high level, no fighter should be allowed to take them, including prescription PEDs.

If I'm not mistaken steroids or PEDs come with their fair share of negative side effects as well.

Also, in my opinion, the greatest fighter in the sport has never touched them.  If Anderson Silva can make it to the top and stay at the top without the use of PEDs, even while beating guys who ARE using them, then there's no need for them in the sport at all.

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FresnoMMA
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05.24.2012 | 9:01 PM ET

I would be so disappointed to see steroids legalized in professional sports.  I'd rather see a much stricter drug-testing system that wouldn't allow anyone the chance to use them in preparation for a fight.
GNARMOSHTHRASH
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05.24.2012 | 10:20 PM ET

There are a lot of great points being made i love hearing debates Now LynxGuy your point about Anderson Silva was great but if he can beat people on steroids then why not legalize them in sports and just leave it to choice and my opinion on it PED'S being cheating is well to me its not cheating its basically just evolution in sport like a better improved baseball bat or cleats or a new training method those are all improving performance but are not construe as cheating
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05.24.2012 | 10:28 PM ET

I also want to note that I love that this thread doesn't have like 20 down-arrows like the last one did.  It's good to see people discussing rather than throwing around down arrows when they see a thread about a sensitive subject.
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05.24.2012 | 10:36 PM ET

@GNARMO, that's pretty much how Im viewing this topic. They are just like a new baseball bat designed to be lighter while keeping the same length or shoes with new grip so you dont slide

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GNARMOSHTHRASH
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05.24.2012 | 10:36 PM ET

this is my first posting so im pretty glad myself that there isnt a bunch of morons with no valid points
t0rch
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05.24.2012 | 10:50 PM ET

I'm kind of neutral on the topic. I don't think they should be used to try and gain a significant edge over a fighter, however I do think they should be allowed for real injuries. However, the problem with that is how do you justify what types of injuries should give the fighters the ability to use them, and how do you make sure they don't continue to use them when they are healed.  In baseball for example, Andy Pettitte admitted to using steriods, but only return quicker.

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05.24.2012 | 11:15 PM ET

Interesting subject!  Great first post for Gnarmoshthrash.

IMO, I really hate PEDs in sports.  It's not only an unfair advantage when one person uses it when the other doesn't, but a lot of PEDs are harmful to the user's body long term, meaning they'll **** up their lives in the end just to gain the advantage in a few fights. 

Now as far as using these drugs strictly to recover from injuries...... if it were just that and it could be proven that there would be no long term health issues.... I'd be okay with that.  If the science is there and it can be used in an ethical way, why not use it?  But once you recover, I think that should be the end of it.  There shouldn't be any more usage because again, it's an unfair advantage.   Only problem there though is, how do you determine when an athlete is healthy enough to not need PEDs anymore?  That'd be a ***** to figure out.




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05.24.2012 | 11:18 PM ET

I should note the Anderson Silva factor while I'm at it.  Silva's a freak and there will not be many fighters with his level of talent, but if history shows that people who don't use PEDs can consistently beat users at the same rate that users beat non-users..... then it gets interesting (although my opinion is that if it doesn't really help users win at an improved rate, why bother using the drugs at all and deal with long-term health problems?)

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05.25.2012 | 12:04 AM ET


ITS NOT FAIR AND ITS NOT SAFE....PERIOD...As Gnarmo mentions, that as long as everyone was cool with it, then who cares, but you have to look at the side effects along with the after math of these toxics...They are dangerous and illegal for a reason..Take a look at King Mo for instance, he was nearly on his death bed, due to taking a drug he thought would just help him cut weight...when it was actually a very scary steroid...of course he denied the fact that he was ingesting these malicious toxiants..

 

Then if one agreed to allow steroids, what would be the limiting limit? There would be no limits, and you would see more deaths..IMO.....

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