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UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

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10.24.2022 | 11:38 PM ET

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UFC 285
  • Saturday 03.04.2023 at 05:30 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $12,150,000
  • Attendance: 19,471
  • MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout   Info
Jon Jones   defeats   Ciryl Gane   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:04 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Valentina Shevchenko   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:34 Round 4 of 5, 19:34 Total Bout Page
Shavkat Rakhmonov   defeats   Geoff Neal   via Submission, Standing Rear Naked Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Jalin Turner   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bo Nickal   defeats   Jamie Pickett   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   2:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Cody Garbrandt   defeats   Trevin Jones   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dricus Du Plessis   defeats   Derek Brunson   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   4:59 Round 2 of 3, 9:59 Total Bout Page
Amanda Ribas   defeats   Viviane Araujo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marc-André Barriault   defeats   Julian Marquez   via KO/TKO, Punches (standing TKO)   4:12 Round 2 of 3, 9:12 Total Bout Page
Ian Machado Garry   defeats   Kenan Song   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:22 Round 3 of 3, 14:22 Total Bout Page
Cameron Saaiman   defeats   Mana Martinez   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tabatha Ricci   defeats   Jessica Penne   via Submission, Armbar   2:14 Round 2 of 3, 7:14 Total Bout Page
Farid Basharat   defeats   Da'Mon Blackshear   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loik Radzhabov   defeats   Esteban Ribovics   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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02.27.2023 | 3:43 PM ET

@gliese58i

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 0 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 4110th

i was referring to drake curse. I thought jake's fight was fixed, initially put 2 bills on him, but cashed it out because saw tommy as a real threat (ended up putting half a bill on jake tho). 

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02.27.2023 | 3:46 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 695 Points   |   Tied for 1913th

@danromanick Loik should take this fight. It’s a close fight but I think he has all the advantages

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02.27.2023 | 3:53 PM ET

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Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 4724th

MAKES EVERYBODY THINK. JUST LIKE PIC ON WHO IS GOING TO WIN. THINK.

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02.27.2023 | 3:54 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 2457th

Had no idea Mana Martinez full first name was "Leomana".

If you break down his name, it basically means "Lion Energy". 
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02.27.2023 | 5:05 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 4341st

Short-notice after thinking he was on TUF just seems rough
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02.27.2023 | 5:21 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

Watched Basharat and Blackshear today. I was interested in the Blackshear odds because of how wide the line is but I have to say, Farid Basharat impressed the hell out of me.
This kid is going places as Dana would say.

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02.27.2023 | 5:58 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Pavlovich will be the back-up fighter for the Heavyweight title fight this upcoming weekend. 
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02.27.2023 | 6:01 PM ET

@Concorde1

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 0 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 3939th

That didn't age well...
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02.27.2023 | 6:22 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 770 Points   |   Tied for 712th

Pavlovich is the future champ no matter who wins. 
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02.27.2023 | 7:07 PM ET

Andrew

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

Soloing continents. Lol

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02.27.2023 | 7:13 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 2614th

One thing scaring me off my Gane bet, USADA is trying to  clear Jons of steroid use and overturn Jones vs Comier 2 because they think he "innocent", It's clear coruption if they overturn it, If you think Jon is clean, You are an idiot,  He got caught 3 time with steroids, My worry is that now USADA is allowing only Jones to cheat more the ever, He could now be on the super soldier serum for all I know

I'm hoping he's on the same amount of steroid as he was for he last few fight because he didn't look good in them

* Edited at 02.27.2023, 7:16 PM ET *

"Quack quack quack"

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02.27.2023 | 7:22 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 795 Points   |   Tied for 455th

@DamienHandel420

I bet USADA overturns the Jones/Cormier 2 decision, because Jon Jones is the biggest star in the UFC, just like USADA gave Floyd Mayweather Jr special treatment because he was the biggest star in boxing,

* Edited at 02.27.2023, 9:33 PM ET *

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02.27.2023 | 8:03 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 4859th

Gamrot vs. Turner
Jalin Turner, DEC
Taller more ufc experience

Penne vs. Ricci
Tabatha Ricci, DEC
Jessica is 40

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02.27.2023 | 8:38 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 765 Points   |   Tied for 788th

Andrew1047I think Pavlo will get another first KO finish now, but I would really like to see Blaydes take him down and see his ground game, finally. Blaydes is the man who could do and show us that easy. If I remember correct Curtis was one of leading list with TD's. He had 60+ last time I checked. I belive Sergei will have much trouble there on the ground. After that would be easier for us to decide he'll be champ or not. To be honest I wanted to see Gane vs. Pavlovich if Jones didn't come back just yet, but I don't really belive UFC would give him title-shot. Fight with Blaydes will tell much more what's cooking for the guy.

It's really good they managed to put these two HW fights together in less than 1.5 months gap between.

* Edited at 02.27.2023, 8:50 PM ET *

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02.27.2023 | 10:43 PM ET

Penne has OF now

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 675 Points   |   Tied for 2310th

Penne is 40, fights once a year, and gets subbed. Baby shark is going to choke her out round 1. 

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02.27.2023 | 11:01 PM ET

@ gliese58i

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 3985th

What’s your thoughts on gane, I think this is a very winnable match up for him. Just need a good second opinion on this match up, cheers mate 
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02.27.2023 | 11:15 PM ET

@ryanQ

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

Honestly couldn't tell you how the main event is going to go. I mean we're all guessing, there's good arguments on either side. I know Gane is a natural heavyweight who moves like a middleweight and is an excellent kickboxer. I don't think he'll have a problem standing, if he's getting dominated it would be if Jones has the grappling advantage. I just don't know where Jon is at, he was far from as dominant as he was in his peak when he left the scene 3 years ago so it's hard to tell.

I got Gane but only because of the line. I would probably back Jones if he was a moderate dog.
The one thing I'm fairly confident is it's that it will go a while. Gane is very patient and Jon has been away for 3 years and is fighting the scariest opponent physically that he's ever been against and Jones has one of the best defenses in the game and has leaned on that more and more as he aged anyhow.
Unless Jones blasts a double and proves so dominant in the top position that he puts Gane away in the first 2. I think it's more likely on Jones side if there's an early finish, I don't think that will happen though.

* Edited at 02.27.2023, 11:18 PM ET *

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02.27.2023 | 11:20 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 2614th

I have 70 units on Gane, I'm that confindent he winning

Hope USADA is gonna do they're job tho, But I'm having doubts, Jon only look good when he get caught for Steroids, Or pre USADA, Jon steroids use is why he's the GOAT





* Edited at 02.27.2023, 11:38 PM ET *

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02.27.2023 | 11:31 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

I will say, betting on Gane is betting that Jones has fallen off to some extent. Which there are arguments for, for example that he lost to Reyes and had a competetive match with Thiago before that.
Because stylistically, it's a better matchup for Jones than Ngannou would be, in my opinion. Ganes lack of finishing power (relative to the division) forces him to play Jones game where Jones is a master. Distance trading is also Ganes speciality of course but we've never seen anyone better at it than Jones at LHW.
I do think that Jones is less than his peak self though.

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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02.27.2023 | 11:31 PM ET

@gliese58i

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 1 Perfect, 585 Points   |   Tied for 3721st

The Basharat brothers are very serious threats. I could see both of them breaking the top 5 at some point in the future.

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