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UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

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10.24.2022 | 11:38 PM ET

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UFC 285
  • Saturday 03.04.2023 at 05:30 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $12,150,000
  • Attendance: 19,471
  • MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout   Info
Jon Jones   defeats   Ciryl Gane   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:04 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Valentina Shevchenko   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:34 Round 4 of 5, 19:34 Total Bout Page
Shavkat Rakhmonov   defeats   Geoff Neal   via Submission, Standing Rear Naked Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Jalin Turner   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bo Nickal   defeats   Jamie Pickett   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   2:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Cody Garbrandt   defeats   Trevin Jones   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dricus Du Plessis   defeats   Derek Brunson   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   4:59 Round 2 of 3, 9:59 Total Bout Page
Amanda Ribas   defeats   Viviane Araujo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marc-André Barriault   defeats   Julian Marquez   via KO/TKO, Punches (standing TKO)   4:12 Round 2 of 3, 9:12 Total Bout Page
Ian Machado Garry   defeats   Kenan Song   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:22 Round 3 of 3, 14:22 Total Bout Page
Cameron Saaiman   defeats   Mana Martinez   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tabatha Ricci   defeats   Jessica Penne   via Submission, Armbar   2:14 Round 2 of 3, 7:14 Total Bout Page
Farid Basharat   defeats   Da'Mon Blackshear   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loik Radzhabov   defeats   Esteban Ribovics   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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TLRulebender
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02.21.2023 | 12:44 PM ET

JR

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 750 Points   |   Tied for 1035th

No matter how good he was back then I do not trust non elite fighters that have almost 2 years of layoff. I do trust Jones cause he was and still is an insanely talented mofo
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02.21.2023 | 12:56 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 755 Points   |   Tied for 896th

song is in his prime 

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02.21.2023 | 12:59 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 755 Points   |   Tied for 896th

i do have garry because song goes down a lil easy sometimes(not just the griffin fight) .

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02.21.2023 | 4:57 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 2614th

Jon has won he's recent fight because the people he been fighting at the end of his reign are mid,  Reyes, Santos, Smith and past his prime Gustaffson, And your telling me, People are picking the guy who should of lost to Reyes, Against Ciryl Gane

Gane has the same  range as Jon Jones, The first time in Jon career this has happen,And historically Jon has done bad against people he doesn't have insane range on, Gane also has the best striking ever at heavyweight IMO, also he only gonna get better after losing to Francis, Especially his wrestling, And Jon Jones don't wrestle much

Expecting a unanimous decision when Jon just get outpointed for 5 round, In a ok fight, Which I be entertained because it be cool and derseve to see Jon lose

* Edited at 02.21.2023, 5:00 PM ET *

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02.21.2023 | 5:15 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 830 Points   |   Tied for 220th

yeah, a part of me feels like Jones is the logical choice, but tbh I think Gane schools him. He's who Im going with at least
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02.21.2023 | 7:26 PM ET

Gane x Jones

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Something I've been seeing since this fight was announced is that people love to remember Ngannou being able to wrestle Gane, but they seem to forget that Francis was "toying" with Stipe in the wrestling department in their second fight ...

No way Gane was expecting Ngannou to wrestle. For this fight, he'll for sure expect Jones to come with a heavy wrestling game plan, so he must be prepared. 

I'll go with Gane here, but if Jon is able to take him down with at least 3 min to end the round, Gane is gonna suffer with that heavy gnp that Jones always shows. 
GreenTeaEnthusiast
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02.21.2023 | 11:40 PM ET

@Latrel

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 1 Perfect, 585 Points   |   Tied for 3721st

I agree completely.

Moreso, I think people put too much weight into intangibles like Jon's strength at heavyweight. I highly doubt that his deadlift numbers will translate into in-cage abilities - Ngannou has far more lean mass than Jones and, unlike him, Jones isn't accustomed to carrying around a heavy frame in an actual fight. He's always been very lean, but now he's bulky, and I think that could even affect some core aspects of his style; namely, his posting-arm defense.

My bet is that Jones is going to look slow as **** and Gane is going to dance around him and piece him up. Jones does not belong at heavyweight.
Latrel Dog
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02.22.2023 | 10:40 AM ET

@GreenTeaEnthusiast

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Yeah, mate, I agree with you. 

I would rather like to see Stipe x Jones before this one tbh. There are a lot of variables here in order to really understand the first Jones fight at heavyweight. 

I just hope it's gonna be a great match between these guys. I'll root for Gane, and will probably live bet for this fight. 
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02.22.2023 | 8:27 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 4821st

Gane saying he doesn't train until he has a fight scheduled worries me a lot 
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02.22.2023 | 8:38 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

I think he's trying to play mind games here... I also heard Jones saying something about Machida and Santos being better stand-up fighters than Gane.

I don't believe in any of these guys lol

Jones knows that Gane is really dangerous on the feet, and Gane seems not to be stupid to take Jones as light work. 
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02.23.2023 | 9:07 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 3763rd

I think the biggest problem between Gane & Jones is that they might respect each other’s game too much. These 2 fighters usually are faster & technically superior to most of their competition but with each other those margins tighten. I hope we don’t get a snooze fest with a overly cautious Gane & a Jones who’s snap strikes seem apprehensive. These 2 are gifted enough to put on a slick fight building in momentum that ends dramatically but will we get it?

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02.23.2023 | 9:10 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 3763rd

Garbrandt is shot.

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02.23.2023 | 3:32 PM ET

WHY IS JAMIE PICKETT VS BO NICKAL ON MAIN CARD ?

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 610 Points   |   Tied for 3382nd

WHY IS JAMIE PICKETT VS BO NICKAL HIGHER ON CARD THEN THESE FIGHTS IT MAKES NO SENSE ITS NOT BIG MATCHUP ALL OF THESE MATCHES DESERVE TO BE HIGHER ON CARD THEN BO NICKAL
1.DEREK BRUNSON VS DRICUS DU PLESSIS 
2.SHAVKAT RAKHMANOV VS GEOFF NEAL - THIS WILL BE BANGER AND BO NICKAL IS HIGHER THEN THEM
3.CODY GARBRANDT VS  TREVIN JONES - THIS IS SQUASH MATCH FOR CODY BUT HE DESERVER TO BE HIGHER ON CARD THEN BO NICKAL
4.IAN GARRY VS KENAN SONG-THIS WILL BE FIREWORKS AND THEY PUTTED IT IN PRELIMS...
5.MATEUS GAMROT VS JALIN TURNER
6.MANA MARTINES VS  CAMERON SAAIMAN
ALL THIS FIGHTS DESERVE TO BE HIGHER THEN BO NICKAL WHO IS MAKING HIS DEBUT AND ITS NOT LIKE HE IS FIGHTING SOMEONE IN TOP 15 HE IS FIGHTING JAMIE PICKETT AND HE IS ONE FIGHT BELOW CO-MAIN EVENT THIS IS DISRESPECT FOR ALL THIS FIGHTER WHO DID WAY MORE THEN BO NICKAL AND ARE BELOW HIM.


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02.23.2023 | 4:23 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 830 Points   |   Tied for 220th

Damn dude, you're making past me look sane. You're making Tartara look only slightly crazy

* Edited at 02.23.2023, 4:23 PM ET *

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02.25.2023 | 8:45 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 8 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 5308th

Don't expect Jon to lose his first fight back, it might be close but he will surely win.
TLRulebender
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02.25.2023 | 9:24 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 750 Points   |   Tied for 1035th

Speaking of the Devil (No offense intented wolfey boy) Where tf is Tartara? 

* Edited at 02.25.2023, 9:25 AM ET *

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02.25.2023 | 10:08 AM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

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02.25.2023 | 10:21 AM ET

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 750 Points   |   Tied for 1018th

If I had to guess..on another website complaining about the website to the owners and being a annoying little ****

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02.25.2023 | 4:29 PM ET

Hey guys got a few ufc tix available for this event if anyone is interested 
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02.25.2023 | 9:38 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 780 Points   |   Tied for 609th

Jones vs. Gane
Ciryl Gane, DEC
Jones' weakness has always been fighting guys who are similar in size to him. Most of his reach advantage is negated and certain folks can use brute strength to stop Jones' wrestling. I believe Gane has been training for this moment for a long time and I think he has all the tools he needs to keep it standing and oustrike Jones for five rounds. Going up a weight class by several pounds and taking three years off just doesn't seem like a good move to me.

Shevchenko vs. Grasso
Valentina Shevchenko, DEC
Grasso is one of Valentina's best opponents but her style doesn't pose any real threat to Shevchenko. If she's able to get a takedown or push Shevchenko against the cage she might steal a round or two but that's it.

Neal vs. Rakhmonov
Shavkat Rakhmonov, SUB, R3
Geoff Neal really impressed me in the Luque fight and he shouldn't be +380. That being said, Shavkat is a different animal and I think he has a distinct advantage anywhere the fight goes. I think Rakhmonov will respect Neal's power and go the the grappling early and often, and I predict a late submission or ground and pound finish.

Gamrot vs. Turner
Mateusz Gamrot, DEC
Turner has never fought anyone with Gamrot's level of grappling and I doubt that he will be able to keep it standing. I see Gamrot riding him to a comfortable UD unless he gets chinned by something nasty and out of nowhere. I really like both guys so I actually don't care who wins.

Pickett vs. Nickal
Bo Nickal, SUB, R1
Pickett's only on the roster to give Nickall a free win

Garbrandt vs. Jones
Cody Garbrandt, TKO, R2
I know a lot of people think Garbrandt is washed and y'all might be right, but I don't trust Trevin Jones. Surely working with Xtreme Couture and the Dagestanis has to have imparted Garbrandt with some new tricks that he can use to win this very winnable matchup.

Brunson vs. Du Plessis
Dricus Du Plessis, SUB, R2
Brunson is old and and if he doesn't finish DDP in the first round he's SOL. I think DDP is way too much for him.

Araujo vs. Ribas
Amanda Ribas, DEC
Coinflip, I'm going with the prettier one.

Marquez vs. Barriault
Julian Marquez, SUB, R3
Why is MAB the betting favorite? Marquez should sub him easily.

Martinez vs. Saaiman
Cameron Saaiman, DEC
I'm high on Saaiman and I think Martinez underperformed against Brandon Davis and made that fight way too close. UD or late finish.

Penne vs. Ricci
Tabatha Ricci, DEC
Baby shark by lay and pray or sub.

Basharat vs. Blackshear
Farid Basharat, DEC
Levels.

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