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UFC 284: Makhachev vs. Volkanovski

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10.07.2022 | 11:04 AM ET

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UFC 284
  • Saturday 02.11.2023 at 06:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: RAC Arena
  • Location: Perth, Western Australia
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Dominick Cruz, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $4,086,687
  • Attendance: 14,124
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: N/A | TV Ratings: 1.13M avg. viewers (ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Islam Makhachev   defeats   Alexander Volkanovski   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Yair Rodriguez   defeats   Josh Emmett   via Submission, Triangle Choke   4:19 Round 2 of 5, 9:19 Total Bout Page
Jack Della Maddalena   defeats   Randy Brown   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Justin Tafa   defeats   Parker Porter   via KO/TKO, Counter Left   1:05 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jimmy Crute   vs.   Alonzo Menifield   Ends in a Draw, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Modestas Bukauskas   defeats   Tyson Pedro   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Josh Culibao   defeats   Melsik Baghdasaryan   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:02 Round 2 of 3, 7:02 Total Bout Page
Kleydson Rodrigues   defeats   Shannon Ross   via KO/TKO, Kicks and Punches   0:59 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jamie Mullarkey   defeats   Francisco Prado   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jack Jenkins   defeats   Don Shainis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loma Lookboonmee   defeats   Elise Reed   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:44 Round 2 of 3, 5:44 Total Bout Page
Blake Bilder   defeats   Shane Young   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Elves Brener   defeats   Zubaira Tukhugov   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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GreenTeaEnthusiast
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02.12.2023 | 1:11 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 4262nd

Just off the top of my head
R1&4 for Islam, R3&5 for Volk
I'll need to give that a rewatch *on mute* once I find the time. R2 is the toss-up and settling round, I think.
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02.12.2023 | 1:12 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 8 Winners, 2 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 4057th

now I'm even more sure that Dariush will beat Islam

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02.12.2023 | 1:12 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 83rd

tepid55  That doesn't make him a hypetrain. Volk is legit as legit can be and he deserves all the credit that comes his way for taking this fight and perform the way he did

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02.12.2023 | 1:13 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 468th

I knew this fight was going to be a close fight in a decision like burns vs khamzat going to decision volk has no holes in his game and islam has never been tested.
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02.12.2023 | 1:13 AM ET

@tepid55

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 374th

Having a competitive fight with arguably the most dominant fighter in the UFC right now isn’t failure.

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02.12.2023 | 1:15 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 374th

Fighters should find a weight division and stay in it.  Holding 2 belts simultaneously shouldn't be allowed.
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02.12.2023 | 1:15 AM ET

Tepid33

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 1821st

Might be the most ******** take I ever seen, I'm hoping he trolling, 

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02.12.2023 | 1:16 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 83rd

tepid55  Can you explain or give some solid reasons why you think it shouldn't be allowed?

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02.12.2023 | 1:17 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 2510th

Yeah, you are dense if you have the simplistic view of “he lost the fight so his stock is down”. We could try to explain why this is a good look for Volk despite losing a close fight, but I’m afraid you’re too dull to understand.

* Edited at 02.12.2023, 1:18 AM ET *

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02.12.2023 | 1:19 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 3659th

I think it’s a cool thing in the moment to hold two belts, but I am in full agreement you should drop one right after so you aren’t holding up two divisions. Champions can’t fight enough yearly in order to have a simultaneous champ be okay in terms of sport progression. 
Now if interim titles actually meant something, then maybe it would work. But they don’t. 

* Edited at 02.12.2023, 1:20 AM ET *

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02.12.2023 | 1:20 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 374th

The matchmaker has to have control.  If he doesn't, you get Conor McGregor thinking he is more important than the UFC.
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02.12.2023 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 8 Winners, 2 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 4057th

Anyway there can't be a unanimous decision in that fight, so this is nonsense

* Edited at 02.12.2023, 1:54 AM ET *

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02.12.2023 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

1,2,4 Islam

3, 5 Volk

pretty clear UD

I think Islam underestimated Volk, second match he'd won clearly. His game plan with Xavier and Khabib was not like this. Just his ego to stand up with Volk. He could wrestle since round 1 and in R 4-5 Volk would be tired and choked
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02.12.2023 | 1:25 AM ET

Tepid33

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 1821st





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02.12.2023 | 1:29 AM ET

Fights to make next

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 2510th

Makhachev vs winner of Dariush/olivera or volk rematch 
Volk vs yair
Emmet vs retirement
JDM vs wonderboy
Brown vs Andre fialho 
Tafa vs Chris Barnett 
Porter vs cut 
Crute vs rountree
Menefield vs bukauskas
Pedro vs cutelaba 
Culibao vs lerone Murphy in London
Melsik vs Saldana 
Kleydson vs carpenter/rondero winner 
Ross vs da Silva 
Mullarkey vs Bonfim
Prado vs maheshate
Jenkins vs woodson
Shanis vs Erik Silva 
Loma vs Yazmin
Reed vs vlismas 
Bilder vs TJ Brown 
Young vs cut 
Brenner vs Manuel Torres 
Zuba vs a gym membership 

* Edited at 02.12.2023, 1:30 AM ET *

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02.12.2023 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 83rd

snakeinthegrassI think fighters should be eligible to fight for two belts if they want to move up a weightclass to fight for a belt. No fighters complained when Volk did it. So I don't see any reason why they should not allow it. There are plenty of fighters that switch between divisions without any complaints by other fighters. So why shouldn't a champ be able to do the same thing if they can make the weight?

In regards to defences: It has never been done and I don't see it happening anytime soon. Going back and forth to defend a belt of two different divisions simultaneously is simply a tough task and almost impossible. Otherwise it would've been done before already.

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02.12.2023 | 1:36 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 3659th

I think we are saying the same thing. 
Yes fighters should be able to move weight classes.
When belts are on the line yes they should be able to win one belt while still having one in another division.
I dont think it’s possible to defend multiple belts in an efficient way. The simultaneous belt holder might after a month of time decide which belt to vacate and which belt to defend.
In a perfect world.

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02.12.2023 | 1:37 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 3523rd

Islam was the only one gassing out here lol, if he wrestled the entire time with Volk getting up he'd be even more ******, did better in the stand up which is what probably won him the fight
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02.12.2023 | 1:41 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 83rd

snakeinthegrass  I thought you meant to say that you didn't like the idea of having double champs because they can't defend it. 

Yes, agreed. In addition, organizations do it because fights like that sell. I haven't checked the post presser yet, but I'm pretty sure this card is among the highest PPV buys.

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02.12.2023 | 2:54 AM ET

Heheh

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 2510th

First parlay cashed, second sadly lost due to Menifield fight. Undeafeted in mainevent picks 2023😂

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