Topic: Top Middleweights - 185 lbs.
Vitor Belfot above Silva in middleweight rankings?
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07.13.2013 | 1:36 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 3:39 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 5:19 AM ET
1. Chris Weidman: He beat the champion obviously so he is here.
2. Anderson Silva: He belongs here because he has practically wiped out the entire division before and those that he did not fight yet are either coming off loses and ranked below the three position and he's kicked Vitor's ass in the past. His resume speaks for itself including what he did to Belfort already...I don't think I need to go into detail on that one.
3. Vitor Belfort: He has beaten Bisping and Rockhold, two top 10's consecutively in a brutal fashion but, Silva was considered the no. lb for lb fighter in the world prior to this loss and there is no way he will be below Belfort.
4. Yushin Okami: He sucks and is very boring...but he is the only middleweight who has been winning in the ufc middleweight division consecutively against this so called "top competition" that includes alan belcher who's best win was against Patrick Cote who hasn't been top 10 in centuries and that one trick pony Palhares.
5. Michael Bisping: He's lucky he poked Belcher's eye. He does not impress me at all but, he's beaten a fair amount of good named fighters in this division.
6. Mark Munoz: He dominated Boetsch and is back in the picture.
7. Costa Philippou: I have no idea how he made it in the top 10 let alone the no. 7 spot. He is damn lucky he poked Boetsh's eye. He is literally one loss away from being out of the picture forever.
8.Ronaldo Souza: He's been winning four straight against decent competition and made a hell of an impression in his UFC debut.
9. Luke Rockhold: He was the champ. But he lost to your no. 2 guy and my no. 3 guy, so no shame in that, but he has really kicked some serious ass in the past and deserves to be in the top 10 despite a UFC victory.
10. Mamed Khalidov: He beating everyone they feed to him in Poland badly, and some ex-UFC fighters including 5/6 of his previous opponents, so he's fighting some good competition. I agree that Boetsch would be here if he didn't get that eye poked and they stopped the fight.
11. Tim Boetsch: Just were he belongs now.
12. Alan Belcher/Cung Le: I think Cung deserves this but I don't know for sure...I need another fight from both of them to make this call.
13. Aleksandr Shlemenko: He is the Bellator Champion and has been winning a lot lately
14. Tim Kennedy: Honestly nothing to say about him.
15. Hector Lombard: A real disappointment, I really thought he could offer something to this division, but I guess not, he beat Palhares nicely though. Good thing he's moving to welterweight were he can hopefully find success.
NOTES: Gegard Mousasi would surely be an exciting addition to this division. I don't know what happened to Chael, but he was a pretty good middleweight and would have probably remained top 5 if he stayed.
07.13.2013 | 6:48 AM ET
07.13.2013 | 7:38 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 10:30 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 10:36 AM ET
Anderson KOed Belfort unexpectedly but in no way, shape, or form does it mean for certain he could do it again. Same exact circumstance as Weidman/Anderson.
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07.13.2013 | 10:55 AM ET
Thanks for reinstating my point. It DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE to rank him lower if you really been following history without a biased mind. If one wants to ignore common sense, they can rank him below or as well throw themselves from a cliff.
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07.13.2013 | 11:13 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 11:14 AM ET
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07.13.2013 | 11:30 AM ET
Anderson knocked out Vitor in the last 3 years. Vitor hasn't beat anyone who beat Anderson to make some "'A' beat 'B', 'B' beat 'C', 'C beat 'A'" MMAmath. Therefore Anderson is of course ranked higher.
07.13.2013 | 7:18 PM ET
Anderson Silva dominated Vitor. Vitor was a deer in the headlights. Anderson ducked his punches, Anderson scrambled, Anderson did what Anderson does.
Oh and he front-kicked him in the face.
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07.13.2013 | 7:48 PM ET
07.14.2013 | 11:50 AM ET
Vitor didn't land more shots, Vitor missed more shots, his "takedown" that you're giving him points for is total ******** because Anderson Silva was back up in LITERALLY two seconds; the takedown did nothing for Vitor. If anything, all that "takedown" did was piss Anderson off because that's when the domination begins. Vitor even swings a huge punch on Anderson while he's on the ground and Anderson dodges it...WHILE HIS BACK IS ON THE FLOOR. Giving Vitor points because he brought Anderson to the ground for a second, now I know exactly what type of person I'm dealing with.
Anderson was obviously in control of the octagon; he dictated where the fight happened and at what pace. Neither fighter did a thing because Belfort was focusing too much on getting caught and Anderson is never on the offense without being put on the defensive first.
And to give more points to Vitor for ducking under a head kick when Anderson went Neo on, wait let me count..6 of Vitor's punches and one blocked headkick must be a case of Belfort's cum being lodged directly under your eyelids. Funny that the 6 consecutive punches that Anderson dodged from Vitor was followed by a...wait for it...FRONTKICK TO THE ******* FACE.
Even if Vitor went Maynard/Edgar on Anderson's ass before Anderson won, he got F-R-O-N-T-K-I-C-K-E-D in the ******* face. A frontkick. To the face. Vitor is Anderson's ***** and I am not interested in a rematch.
I mean you might be but that's only because you're getting tired of the old Vitor fights that you're used to jacking off to but I'm not because Anderson Silva DOMINATED Vitor Belfort.
And he'd do it again.
* Edited at 07.14.2013, 11:50 AM ET *
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07.14.2013 | 11:56 AM ET
p.s. I don't update my rankings frequently so any comments on them are pointless.
* Edited at 07.14.2013, 11:57 AM ET *
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07.14.2013 | 4:32 PM ET
I actually don’t disagree with some of your supporting arguments.
Belfort did miss more shots, but he still landed more shots. Slightly more though. Belfort doesn’t get full points for maintaining the ground position, but taking him down even for just a brief moment is more significant than usual for a fight that lacked fighting most of the time.
Octagon control wasn’t obvious to either side. The number of sequences where Silva was the aggressor and sequences where Belfort was the aggressor is close enough where octagon control is practically non-factor in judging.
The front kick is probably the most iconic KO in UFC history. No, it is. That actually makes me more motivated to see a rematch. That and Belfort tearing it up against quality opponents with the power of TRT. I think Belfort might be the best striker Silva has faced, just not in the same tier.
The root of this whole thing is based on our definitions of domination. A KO, even the most spectacular, after the fight being pretty close or a fight where nothing happened is not domination. Domination is consistently winning the fight by a large margin.
Whether you thought Silva or Belfort was winning, it was pretty close. Dominating striking is Silva vs. Griffin, Miocic vs. Nelson, Tatum vs. Simpson. Not Emelianenko vs. Arlovksi. Not Dos Santos vs. Velaquez. Not Weidman vs. Silva. Not this.
07.14.2013 | 5:27 PM ET
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07.15.2013 | 7:06 AM ET
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07.15.2013 | 12:15 PM ET
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