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07.12.2013 | 7:06 PM ET

alright bill hopefully this should work for you ...

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11.05.2013 | 10:17 AM ET

Top Tier: Anthony Pettis, Benson Henderson, Gilbert Melendez, TJ Grant, Gray Maynard, Josh Thomson, Michael Chandler, Eddie Alvarez, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Pat Healy

Mid-Tier: Nate Diaz, Rafael Dos Anjos, Donald Cerrone, Diego Sanchez, Jim Miller, Joe Lauzon, Jamie Varner, Melvin Guillard, Michael Johnson, 

Bottom Tier: Ross Pearson, Sam Stout, Curt Warburton, Kyle Watson, Matt Wiman, Andre Winner, Yves Edwards, Edson Barboza, Mark Bocek, Danny Castillo, Mac Danzig, Rafael Dos Anjos, Evan Dunham, Michael Johnson, John Makdessi, Anthony Njokuani, Aaron Riley, Shane Roller, George Sotiropoulos, Thiago Tavares, Paul Taylor, Gleison Tibau.

My 11-19

11. Nate Diaz
12. Rafael Dos Anjos
13. Donald Cerrone
14. Diego Sanchez
15. Jim Miller
16. Joe Lauzon
17. Jamie Varner
18. Melvin Guillard
19. Michael Johnson
20. Jorge Masvidal
21. Rustam Khabilov
22. KJ Noons
23. Ross Pearson
24. Sam Stout

Coming LW fights:

Jorge Masvidal vs. Rustam Khabilov, November 6, 2013, UFC Fight for the Troops 3
Colton Smith vs. Michael Chiesa, November 6, 2013, UFC Fight for the Troops 3
James Krause vs. Bobby Green, November 6, 2013, UFC Fight for the Troops 3
Yves Edwards vs. Yancy Medeiros, November 6, 2013, UFC Fight for the Troops 3
Thiago Tavasres vs. Justin Salas, November 9, 2013, UFC Fight Night 32
Adrano Martins vs. Daron Cruickshank, November 9, 2013, UFC Fight Night 32
Donald Cerrone vs. Evan Dunham, November 16, 2013, UFC 167
Gray Maynard vs. Nate Diaz, November 30, 2013, TUF, Team Rousey vs. Team Tate Finale
Anthony Pettis vs. Josh Thomson, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Joe Lauzon vs. Mac Danzig, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Danny Castillo vs. Edson Barboza, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Abel Trujillo vs. Roger Bowling, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Sam Stout vs. Cody McKenzie, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Jamie Varner vs. Pat Healy, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Gleison Tibau vs. Michael Johnson, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Jim Miller vs. Fabricio Camoes, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Ross Pearson vs. Melvin Guillard, UFC Fight Night: Gustafsson vs. TBA

Presently, the following are not matched up in fights yet: Takanori Gomi, 

Some of the above fighters are just after having fought recently.

Injured: TJ Grant

The above listing is tentative and soft.  I are prepared to adjust the sequence to some extent based on the order of the house.
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To assist everyone, here is the form chart for tapology;

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Melendez 4. Grant 5. Thomson 6. Maynard 7. Diaz 8. Nurmagomedov 9. Chandler 10. Dos Anjos

11, Cerrone 12. Miller 13. Alvarez 14. Healy 15. Lauzon 16. Sanchez 17. Tibau 18. Barboza 19. Dunham 20. Varner

21. Johnson 22. Guillard 23. Masivdal 24. Jury 25. Gomi 26. Wiman 27. Pearson 28. Castillo 29. Bocek 30. Green 
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Official UFC Rankings, after UFC 166

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Grant 4. Thomson 5. Maynard 6. Dos Anjos 7. Nurmagomedov 8. Diaz 9. Miller 10 Cerrone

Recent developments have thrown this seething cauldron of talent into an even more frenzied state of wild, caotic pandamonim.  

Jose Aldo is now calling out Anthony Pettis.

BJ Penn is fighting Frankie Edgar at 145!  And the reports are that he is making the cut without problems!  But we all know that BJ will end up back in 155, the scene of his most famous 'crimes'.

Eddie Alvarez beat Michael Chandler for the Bellator LW title.  And now he will fight him for the 3rd time.  After which, he will become a free agent, regardless if he wins or loses.  So, I suspect he will come to the UFC sometime in mid-2014.  And then we'll all see together just where he fits in.

Donald 'Cowboy' Cerrrone has announced his intentions to drop down to 145.  Where he finds the extra 10 lbs. to shed defies understanding.

I find Khabib Nurmagomedov as exciting a force in LW as any and he is probably calling out everybody as we speak. Apparently, Gilbert Melendez wants to fight him and Khabib has created a online poster confirming his agreement.  So, that will certainly become an intensely-bitter war.  Good times are here, folks!

It doesn't get much more wildly fluid, chaotic & wide open as this.  We're in the Wild West.

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11.05.2013 | 10:24 AM ET

I think Gray Maynard is done he's almost 35 and 1-2-1 in the last 3 years being knocked out twice and only winning a split decision. I think Nate is going to beat him up and retirement will encroach.

* Edited at 11.05.2013, 10:29 AM ET *

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11.05.2013 | 10:49 AM ET

How is Jorge Masvidal ranked below Michael Johnson, Melvin Guillard, Jamie Varner, Joe Lauzon and Jim Miller?

Where do you rank Gleison Tibau and Myles Jury?

Why is Rafael dos Anjos ranked so lowly?
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11.05.2013 | 10:50 AM ET

Personally think Varner was robbed in his last fight to be honest

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11.05.2013 | 10:54 AM ET

Varner robbed himself, had Tibau on ***** street and spent the rest of the round trying to get a takedown and securing top position "in hopes" of winning a decision when if I am not mistaken his corner said he was down 2. People really don't get how important it is to be a SMART fighter.

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11.05.2013 | 2:47 PM ET


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11.23.2013 | 11:23 AM ET

New announced LW fights since my last report.

Bobby Green vs. Pat Healy,  December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Benson Henderson vs. Josh Thomson, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson

Top Tier: Anthony Pettis, Benson Henderson, Gilbert Melendez, TJ Grant, Gray Maynard, Josh Thomson, Michael Chandler, Eddie Alvarez, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Pat Healy

Mid-Tier: Nate Diaz, Rafael Dos Anjos, Donald Cerrone, Diego Sanchez, Jim Miller, Joe Lauzon, Jamie Varner, Melvin Guillard, Michael Johnson, Rustam Khabilov, Jorge Masvidal, KJ Noons

Bottom Tier: Ross Pearson, Sam Stout, Curt Warburton, Kyle Watson, Matt Wiman, Andre Winner, Yves Edwards, Edson Barboza, Mark Bocek, Danny Castillo, Mac Danzig, Evan Dunham, Michael Johnson, John Makdessi, Anthony Njokuani, Aaron Riley, Shane Roller, George Sotiropoulos, Thiago Tavares, Paul Taylor, Gleison Tibau.

My 11-19

11. Nate Diaz
12. Rafael Dos Anjos
13. Donald Cerrone
14. Diego Sanchez
15. Jim Miller
16. Joe Lauzon
17. Jamie Varner
18. Melvin Guillard
19. Michael Johnson
20. Rustam Khabilov
21. Jorge Masvidal
22. KJ Noons
23. Ross Pearson
24. Sam Stout

Coming LW fights:

Gray Maynard vs. Nate Diaz, November 30, 2013, TUF, Team Rousey vs. Team Tate Finale
Anthony Pettis vs. Josh Thomson, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Joe Lauzon vs. Mac Danzig, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Danny Castillo vs. Edson Barboza, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Bobby Green vs. Pat Healy,  December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Abel Trujillo vs. Roger Bowling, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Sam Stout vs. Cody McKenzie, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Gleison Tibau vs. Michael Johnson, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Jim Miller vs. Fabricio Camoes, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Ross Pearson vs. Melvin Guillard, UFC Fight Night: Gustafsson vs. TBA
Benson Henderson vs. Josh Thomson, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson

Presently, the following are not matched up in fights yet: Takanori Gomi, 

Some of the above fighters are just after having fought recently.

Injured: TJ Grant, Jamie Varner, Anthony Pettis, 

The above listing is tentative and soft.  I are prepared to adjust the sequence to some extent based on the order of the house.
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To assist everyone, here is the form chart for tapology;

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Melendez 4. Grant 5. Thomson 6. Maynard 7. Diaz 8. Nurmagomedov 9. Chandler 10. Dos Anjos

11, Cerrone 12. Miller 13. Alvarez 14. Healy 15. Lauzon 16. Sanchez 17. Tibau 18. Barboza 19. Dunham 20. Varner

21. Johnson 22. Guillard 23. Masivdal 24. Jury 25. Gomi 26. Wiman 27. Pearson 28. Castillo 29. Bocek 30. Green 
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Official UFC Rankings, after UFC 167

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Melendez  4. Grant 5. Thomson 6. Maynard 7. Dos Anjos 8. Nurmagomedov 9. Diaz  10 Cerrone 11. Miller

Recent developments have thrown this seething cauldron of talent into an even more frenzied state of wild, caotic pandamonim.  

Champ Anthony Pettis now requires surgery and is indisposed at the moment.  He hopes to be ready to fight by summer.

Donald Cerrone defeated Evan Dunham in convincing fashtion at UFC 167.

Rustam Khabilov won a UD over Jorge Masavidal at UFC: Fight for the Troops and has announced his arrival in stellar fashion.  

It doesn't get much more wildly fluid, chaotic & wide open as this.  We're in the Wild West.

* Edited at 11.23.2013, 11:26 AM ET *

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11.23.2013 | 12:34 PM ET

Mine.
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12.01.2013 | 7:44 PM ET


Nate Diaz has climbed to 7th in my ranks after his demolition of Gray Maynard last night what a handful
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12.01.2013 | 8:17 PM ET

hope this show . but these my rankings

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12.07.2013 | 9:02 AM ET

New announced LW fights since my last report.

Mairbek Taisumov vs. Tae Hyun Bang, January 4, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 34
Ramsey Nijem vs. Justin Edwards, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Vinc Pichel vs. Garrett Whiteley, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Isaac Vallie-Flagg vs. Elias Silverio, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Donald Cerrone vs. Adriano Martins, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Cristiano Marcello vs. Joe Proctor, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36
Francisco Trinaldo vs. Jesse Ronson, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36

Top Tier: Anthony Pettis, Benson Henderson, Gilbert Melendez, TJ Grant, Josh Thomson, Michael Chandler, Eddie Alvarez, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Pat Healy, Nate Diaz

Mid-Tier: Gray Maynard, Rafael Dos Anjos, Donald Cerrone, Diego Sanchez, Jim Miller, Joe Lauzon, Jamie Varner, Melvin Guillard, Michael Johnson, Rustam Khabilov, Jorge Masvidal, KJ Noons

Bottom Tier: Ross Pearson, Sam Stout, Curt Warburton, Kyle Watson, Matt Wiman, Andre Winner, Yves Edwards, Edson Barboza, Mark Bocek, Danny Castillo, Mac Danzig, Evan Dunham, Michael Johnson, John Makdessi, Anthony Njokuani, Aaron Riley, Shane Roller, George Sotiropoulos, Thiago Tavares, Paul Taylor, Gleison Tibau.

My 11-19

11. Gray Maynard
12. Rafael Dos Anjos
13. Donald Cerrone
14. Diego Sanchez
15. Jim Miller
16. Joe Lauzon
17. Jamie Varner
18. Melvin Guillard
19. Michael Johnson
20. Rustam Khabilov
21. Jorge Masvidal
22. KJ Noons
23. Ross Pearson
24. Sam Stout

Coming LW fights:

Joe Lauzon vs. Mac Danzig, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Danny Castillo vs. Edson Barboza, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Bobby Green vs. Pat Healy,  December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Abel Trujillo vs. Roger Bowling, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Sam Stout vs. Cody McKenzie, December 14, 2013, UFC on Fox 9
Gleison Tibau vs. Michael Johnson, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Jim Miller vs. Fabricio Camoes, December 28, 2013, UFC 168
Mairbek Taisumov vs. Tae Hyun Bang, January 4, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 34
Ramsey Nijem vs. Justin Edwards, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Vinc Pichel vs. Garrett Whiteley, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Isaac Vallie-Flagg vs. Elias Silverio, January 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night 35
Ross Pearson vs. Melvin Guillard, UFC Fight Night: Gustafsson vs. Jimi Manuwa
Benson Henderson vs. Josh Thomson, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Donald Cerrone vs. Adriano Martins, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Cristiano Marcello vs. Joe Proctor, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36
Francisco Trinaldo vs. Jesse Ronson, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36

Presently, the following are not matched up in fights yet: Takanori Gomi, 

Some of the above fighters are just after having fought recently.

Injured: TJ Grant, Jamie Varner, Anthony Pettis, 

The above listing is tentative and soft.  I are prepared to adjust the sequence to some extent based on the order of the house.
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To assist everyone, here is the form chart for tapology;

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Melendez 4. Grant 5. Thomson 6. Maynard 7. Diaz 8. Nurmagomedov 9. Chandler 10. Dos Anjos

11, Cerrone 12. Miller 13. Alvarez 14. Healy 15. Lauzon 16. Sanchez 17. Tibau 18. Barboza 19. Dunham 20. Varner

21. Johnson 22. Guillard 23. Masivdal 24. Jury 25. Gomi 26. Wiman 27. Pearson 28. Castillo 29. Bocek 30. Green 
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Official UFC Rankings, after UFC 167

1. Pettis 2. Henderson 3. Melendez  4. Grant 5. Thomson 6. Maynard 7. Dos Anjos 8. Nurmagomedov 9. Diaz  10 Cerrone 11. Miller

Recent developments have thrown this seething cauldron of talent into an even more frenzied state of wild, chaotic pandemonium.  

Champ Anthony Pettis now requires surgery and is indisposed at the moment.  He hopes to be ready to fight by summer.  He recently gave an interview, following Nate Diaz' win over Gray Maynard.  He said he'd like to fight Nate Diaz next.  You'd think Nate would be happy to be offered a tittle shot??  Nate shoved the title shot offer hard up Anthony's ass.  So much for Diaz' logic.

Anthony also showed interest in fight Jose Aldo.  Looks like he want to be a true People's Champion.

Nate Diaz scored a decisive win over Gray Maynard, thereby propelling his name back into the Top 10.

It doesn't get much more wildly fluid, chaotic & wide open as this.  We're in the Wild West.

* Edited at 12.07.2013, 9:03 AM ET *

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12.07.2013 | 11:41 AM ET

They almost have to make Melendez/Nurmagomedov now.

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12.07.2013 | 12:36 PM ET

Melendez vs. Nurmagomedov would burn the house down.  Make it happen!

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12.24.2013 | 9:48 AM ET

They have made Gilbert Melendez vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov officially for UFC 170 on February 22, 2013.

This will be a great fight and determine just how superior quality Khabib really is.  He was inching to get a Top 10 guy and they gave him the #3 man on the LW Totem Pole.

Great fight!  Can hardly wait.  Predicting Gil will have too much for Khabib.  But should be fantastic fight nonetheless!

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01.17.2014 | 11:17 AM ET

New announced LW fights since my last report.

Daron Cruickshank vs. Mike Rio, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Jamie Varner vs. Abel Trujillo, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II

John Makdessi vs. Alan Patrick, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Al Iaquinta vs. Kevin Lee, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Tony Martin vs. Rashid Magomedov, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Rodrigo Damm vs. Ivan Jorge, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36

Rafael dos Anjos vs. Rustam Khabilov, February 22, 2014, UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann
Rafaello Oliveira vs. Erik Koch, February 22, 2014, UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann
Kazuki Tokudome vs. Yui Chul Nam, March 1, 2014, UFC Fight Night: TUF China Finale
Diego Sanchez vs. Myles Jury, March 15, 2014, UFC 171, Hendricks vs. Lawler
Top Tier: Anthony Pettis, Benson Henderson, Gilbert Melendez, TJ Grant, Josh Thomson, Michael Chandler, Eddie Alvarez, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Pat Healy, Nate Diaz

Mid-Tier: Gray Maynard, Rafael Dos Anjos, Donald Cerrone, Diego Sanchez, Jim Miller, Joe Lauzon, Jamie Varner, Melvin Guillard, Michael Johnson, Rustam Khabilov, Jorge Masvidal, KJ Noons

Bottom Tier: Ross Pearson, Sam Stout, Curt Warburton, Kyle Watson, Matt Wiman, Andre Winner, Yves Edwards, Edson Barboza, Mark Bocek, Danny Castillo, Mac Danzig, Evan Dunham, Michael Johnson, John Makdessi, Anthony Njokuani, Aaron Riley, Shane Roller, George Sotiropoulos, Thiago Tavares, Paul Taylor, Gleison Tibau.

My 11-19

11. Gray Maynard
12. Rafael Dos Anjos
13. Donald Cerrone
14. Diego Sanchez
15. Jim Miller
16. Joe Lauzon
17. Jamie Varner
18. Melvin Guillard
19. Michael Johnson
20. Rustam Khabilov
21. Jorge Masvidal
22. KJ Noons
23. Ross Pearson
24. Sam Stout

Coming LW fights:

Benson Henderson vs. Josh Thomson, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Donald Cerrone vs. Adriano Martins, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Daron Cruickshank vs. Mike Rio, January 25, 2014, UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Thomson
Jamie Varner vs. Abel Trujillo, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
John Makdessi vs. Alan Patrick, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Al Iaquinta vs. Kevin Lee, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Tony Martin vs. Rashid Magomedov, February 1, 2014, UFC 169, Barao vs. Faber II
Cristiano Marcello vs. Joe Proctor, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36
Francisco Trinaldo vs. Jesse Ronson, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36
Rodrigo Damm vs. Ivan Jorge, February 15, 2014, UFC Fight Night, 36
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Rustam Khabilov, February 22, 2014, UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann
Rafaello Oliveira vs. Erik Koch, February 22, 2014, UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann
Kazuki Tokudome vs. Yui Chul Nam, March 1, 2014, UFC Fight Night: TUF China Finale
Ross Pearson vs. Melvin Guillard, March 8, 2014, UFC Fight Night: Gustafsson vs. Jimi Manuwa
Diego Sanchez vs. Myles Jury, March 15, 2014, UFC 171, Hendricks vs. Lawler

Presently, the following are not matched up in fights yet: Takanori Gomi, 

Some of the above fighters are just after having fought recently.

Injured: TJ Grant, Anthony Pettis, 

Recent developments have thrown this seething cauldron of talent into an even more frenzied state of wild, chaotic pandemonium.  

Since my last report, Joe Lauzon won a UD over Mac Danzig, Bobby Green won a UD over Pat Healy, Michael Johnson beat Gleison Tibau, Jim Miller submitted Fabricio Camoes.

Jose Aldo now says he will move up to LW someday.

Excellent fights are coming.  Henderson / Thomson, Varner / Trujillo, dos Anjos / Khabilov, Pearson / Guillard, Sanchez / Jury.

This division will not be complete until BJ Penn returns.

* Edited at 01.17.2014, 1:07 PM ET *

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01.17.2014 | 12:43 PM ET

Um, Lauzon won a UD over Mac. I'll assume that was a typo :)

And I thought Green's win over Healy was pretty decisive. That's why I dropped Healy from the top 10. I only put Dos Anjos in because of his wins but I thought he lost to Dunham and I don't trust the win over Cowboy due to his erratic performances over the last year. I fully expect Khabilov to dominate him and then be overrated himself. But I could be wrong so for now... :)

It's pretty clear when comparing our rankings that most of the top level is self-evident and they are close enough that there's really no wrong order between, for example: Melendez, Henderson, and Thomson & then Chandler and Alvarez with Khabib and Nate lower down. I rate Grant lower due to his inactivity and the luster of his win over Maynard being taken off. I think he'd be a terrible stylistic match for Nate as would Khabib. I wouldn't say Nate's ducking them so much as he understands he's at a disadvantage given the current rules and judging although his movement and wrestling do seem to be improving.

What's your opinion on Gaethje. I don't have him ranked currently but I have 36 fighters ranked and I'm pretty sure he could beat several of them. I'll be especially paying attention to his performance on Saturday.

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01.17.2014 | 1:21 PM ET

Nice posting, mule.  Good work.  Yeah, I commit typos more than I should.  Thanks for the head's up.

The problem with Rankings is the subjective factor is about equal to the objective fight factor.  So many fighters are inconsistent or have bad days.  The least satisfying result for me is when a guy gets caught, the opponent swarms, and the guy on the ground is turtled up, protecting himself but unable to stop the momentum and gets waved out.  Hate when that happens.  Proves so much more when a guy either dominates or gets dominated the full fight.

I read that Nate Diaz' manager wanted to negotiate more money and the UFC said no.  That's not ducking per se but I can't see where Nate would see the upside of fighting Khabib Nurmagovedov.  Khabib is on a tear and the other guys don't want to be his stepping stone.  Which is legitimate of course, but still, we would like to see those fights!  The very last thing on this Earth that Nate wants is to be suplexed like he was by Rory MacDonald.  It's that kind of imagery that the fans never forget.

I agree that Green won decisively over Healy.  But I want to give Healy another chance.  He's a tough man.

I never even heard of Gaethje.  He's not on my radar yet but I'll look out for him.  Thanks for the head's up.

I absolutely hate that Maynard lost 2 fights when's he SO PROVED his credentials earlier.  I can't drop him that far.  I really want to see him fight Henderson.

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01.17.2014 | 1:34 PM ET

While I obviously do put more stock into finishes than decisions, I realize it is much easier for a shorter fight to be the exception but there are also fights like Romero/Brunson & Tavares/Larkin from Wed. where I thought the decision was just but wouldn't be that confident in a repeat if either rematch were made especially the Romero/Brunson fight.


And as for Maynard, look at his so-called "proven" credentials. Record of 11-3-1. The draw & 1 of 3 losses to Edgar and even though he took the 1st fight, the obvious improvement of Frankie and non-improvement of Maynard make that a clear enough situation for me. Then you have Nate who he owns a very debatable decision win over but was KOed by most recently and was subbed on TUF. Grant swarmed and caught him. Who are his convincing wins? He laid on Florian because that's Kenny's biggest weakness and he was pot-shotting Huerta who exposed his chin 1st. Imo his most impressive win was his clear decision over Jim Miller whose own ranking isn't what it once was so I think Maynard is overrated because he's evolved at a slower pace than the MMA average. I think Maynard is a LW version of Kos and LW is significantly ahead of WW when it comes that evolution and I've always thought Kos was overrated.

Oh and I would LOVE to see Maynard/Bendo because I think Gray would be a stylistic nightmare for Bendo: better wrestler, maybe as athletic, and Ben doesn't have the power to take advantage of Gray's biggest weakness, his chin.

* Edited at 01.17.2014, 1:36 PM ET *

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01.17.2014 | 2:00 PM ET

Pretty obvious top 10 at the moment imo...

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01.17.2014 | 2:09 PM ET

Looking at this page alone, I'd say that's a safe statement, 3 of us have the same 10 just in different order and everybody else has at least 8 of those 10. 

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