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05.13.2014 | 10:12 PM ET
Lately cains last 7 of 8 fights has been against Brazilians..nog.bigfoot and jds..going 6-1..wat other non brazilianfighters hold a good record vs the worlds best fighters??
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- flOw _
05.13.2014 | 10:20 PM ET
Erm.
His last 6 fights includes Brock Lesnar. Oh there's many examples, Chris Weidman having two solid victories over Anderson Silva, just one of many. Not sure what you mean by "the worlds best fighters" but obvious troll is obvious.
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05.13.2014 | 10:44 PM ET
who else?
Meaning like a sakuraba. .who defeated many a brazilian in his era..but who else ??..and its a fact that like it or not the best fighters come out Brazil...tho the Russians are making a run..and yes Brock was amongst the 7of 8 I mentioned..thnx for commenting
05.13.2014 | 10:52 PM ET
and its a fact that like it or not the best fighters come out Brazil...tho the Russians are making a run
Could you explain to me why Brazilians currently hold 2 UFC belts, Russians hold none, and Americans hold 6 UFC belts? Just curious since it's a fact.
Could you explain to me why Brazilians currently hold 2 UFC belts, Russians hold none, and Americans hold 6 UFC belts? Just curious since it's a fact.
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05.13.2014 | 10:52 PM ET
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05.13.2014 | 10:54 PM ET
There are three legitimate arguments for best fighter of all time in MMA. One of them is Brazilian. The other is that Russian guy right up there. And then there's GSP.
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05.13.2014 | 11:16 PM ET
Cthulu- no mention of a young man from Rochester New York?
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05.13.2014 | 11:46 PM ET
Your original question is ignorant in the assumption that Brazilian fighters are the best fighters in the world. I've given you a clear example of how they're not by stating the facts on current UFC champs. There is zero benefit you can attribute to a fighter because of their home country. That's ******* stupid.
@Sreimuth Bones has a little more to do in my opinion before he enters that argument. Not a lot though. If he keeps the belt after rematching Gus I'd bump him into the discussion.
@Sreimuth Bones has a little more to do in my opinion before he enters that argument. Not a lot though. If he keeps the belt after rematching Gus I'd bump him into the discussion.
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05.14.2014 | 2:02 AM ET
I'm going to go out of my way to explain to you why you're wrong because I'm bored. I'm going to paste every divisions top 10 according to the official UFC rankings along with their home country. I know they're ******* stupid, and include things like not having Nate Diaz in them, but they're official, so whatever.
Flyweight
Champion : Demetrious Johnson - USA
1 John Dodson - USA
2 Joseph Benavidez - USA
3 Ian McCall - USA
4 Ali Bagautinov - Russia
5 John Moraga - USA
6 Jussier Formiga - Brazil
7 John Lineker - Brazil
8 Chris Cariaso - USA
9 Zach Makovsky - USA
10 Timothy Elliott - USA
Bantamweight
Champion : Renan Barao - Brazil
1 Urijah Faber - USA
2 Raphael Assuncao - Brazil
3 Michael McDonald - Canada
4 TJ Dillashaw - USA
5 Eddie Wineland - USA
6 Takeya Mizugaki - Japan
7 Iuri Alcantara - Brazil
8 Mike Easton - USA
9 Dominick Cruz - USA
10 Francisco Rivera - USA
Women's Bantamweight
Champion : Ronda Rousey - USA
1 Cat Zingano - USA
2 Alexis Davis - Canada
3 Miesha Tate - USA
4 Sara McMann - USA
5 Sarah Kaufman - Canada
6 Jessica Eye - USA
7 Liz Carmouche - USA
8 Amanda Nunes - Brazil
9 Jessica Andrade - Brazil
10 Bethe Correia - Brazil
Featherweight
Champion : Jose Aldo - Brazil
1 Chad Mendes - USA
2 Frankie Edgar - USA
3 Ricardo Lamas - USA
4 Cub Swanson - USA
5 Chan Sung Jung - South Korea
6 Dustin Poirier - USA
7 Clay Guida - USA
8 Dennis Siver - Germany/Russia
9 Nik Lentz - USA
10 Dennis Bermudez - USA
Lightweight
Champion : Anthony Pettis - USA
1 Gilbert Melendez - USA
2 Benson Henderson - USA
3 Josh Thomson - USA
4 Khabib Nurmagomedov - Russia
5 Donald Cerrone - USA
6 Rafael dos Anjos - Brazil
7 Jim Miller - USA
8 Myles Jury - USA (weird Jury and Maynard are both listed at 8)
8 Gray Maynard - USA
10 Michael Johnson - USA
Welterweight
Champion : Johny Hendricks - USA
1 Robbie Lawler - USA
2 Rory MacDonald - Canada
3 Tyron Woodley - USA
4 Carlos Condit - USA
5 Jake Ellenberger - USA
6 Matt Brown - USA
7 Hector Lombard - Cuba
8 Demian Maia - Brazil
9 Dong Hyun Kim - South Korea
10 Tarec Saffiedine - Belgium
Middleweight
Champion : Chris Weidman - USA
1 Anderson Silva - Brazil
2 Lyoto Machida - Brazil
3 Vitor Belfort - Brazil
4 Jacare Souza - Brazil
5 Luke Rockhold - USA
6 Tim Kennedy - USA
7 Mark Munoz - Born in Japan/Filipino American
8 Michael Bisping - England
9 Francis Carmont - Canada
10 Costas Philippou - Cyprus
Light Heavyweight
Champion : Jon Jones - USA
1 Alexander Gustafsson - Sweden
2 Rashad Evans - USA
3 Glover Teixeira - Brazil
4 Daniel Cormier - USA
5 Anthony Johnson - USA
6 Dan Henderson - USA
7 Phil Davis - USA
8 Mauricio Rua - Brazil
9 Chael Sonnen - USA
10 Ryan Bader - USA
Heavyweight
Champion : Cain Velasquez - Mexican American
1 Fabricio Werdum - Brazil
2 Junior Dos Santos - Brazil
3 Travis Browne - USA
4 Antonio Silva - Brazil
5 Josh Barnett - USA
6 Alistair Overeem - Dutch-English
7 Stipe Miocic - USA
8 Mark Hunt - New Zealand
9 Roy Nelson - USA
10 Frank Mir - USA
Breakdown of countries:
USA - 60 (counting Velasquez and Munoz as both are American)
Brazil - 20
Russia - 3 (counting Siver)
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Flyweight
Champion : Demetrious Johnson - USA
1 John Dodson - USA
2 Joseph Benavidez - USA
3 Ian McCall - USA
4 Ali Bagautinov - Russia
5 John Moraga - USA
6 Jussier Formiga - Brazil
7 John Lineker - Brazil
8 Chris Cariaso - USA
9 Zach Makovsky - USA
10 Timothy Elliott - USA
Bantamweight
Champion : Renan Barao - Brazil
1 Urijah Faber - USA
2 Raphael Assuncao - Brazil
3 Michael McDonald - Canada
4 TJ Dillashaw - USA
5 Eddie Wineland - USA
6 Takeya Mizugaki - Japan
7 Iuri Alcantara - Brazil
8 Mike Easton - USA
9 Dominick Cruz - USA
10 Francisco Rivera - USA
Women's Bantamweight
Champion : Ronda Rousey - USA
1 Cat Zingano - USA
2 Alexis Davis - Canada
3 Miesha Tate - USA
4 Sara McMann - USA
5 Sarah Kaufman - Canada
6 Jessica Eye - USA
7 Liz Carmouche - USA
8 Amanda Nunes - Brazil
9 Jessica Andrade - Brazil
10 Bethe Correia - Brazil
Featherweight
Champion : Jose Aldo - Brazil
1 Chad Mendes - USA
2 Frankie Edgar - USA
3 Ricardo Lamas - USA
4 Cub Swanson - USA
5 Chan Sung Jung - South Korea
6 Dustin Poirier - USA
7 Clay Guida - USA
8 Dennis Siver - Germany/Russia
9 Nik Lentz - USA
10 Dennis Bermudez - USA
Lightweight
Champion : Anthony Pettis - USA
1 Gilbert Melendez - USA
2 Benson Henderson - USA
3 Josh Thomson - USA
4 Khabib Nurmagomedov - Russia
5 Donald Cerrone - USA
6 Rafael dos Anjos - Brazil
7 Jim Miller - USA
8 Myles Jury - USA (weird Jury and Maynard are both listed at 8)
8 Gray Maynard - USA
10 Michael Johnson - USA
Welterweight
Champion : Johny Hendricks - USA
1 Robbie Lawler - USA
2 Rory MacDonald - Canada
3 Tyron Woodley - USA
4 Carlos Condit - USA
5 Jake Ellenberger - USA
6 Matt Brown - USA
7 Hector Lombard - Cuba
8 Demian Maia - Brazil
9 Dong Hyun Kim - South Korea
10 Tarec Saffiedine - Belgium
Middleweight
Champion : Chris Weidman - USA
1 Anderson Silva - Brazil
2 Lyoto Machida - Brazil
3 Vitor Belfort - Brazil
4 Jacare Souza - Brazil
5 Luke Rockhold - USA
6 Tim Kennedy - USA
7 Mark Munoz - Born in Japan/Filipino American
8 Michael Bisping - England
9 Francis Carmont - Canada
10 Costas Philippou - Cyprus
Light Heavyweight
Champion : Jon Jones - USA
1 Alexander Gustafsson - Sweden
2 Rashad Evans - USA
3 Glover Teixeira - Brazil
4 Daniel Cormier - USA
5 Anthony Johnson - USA
6 Dan Henderson - USA
7 Phil Davis - USA
8 Mauricio Rua - Brazil
9 Chael Sonnen - USA
10 Ryan Bader - USA
Heavyweight
Champion : Cain Velasquez - Mexican American
1 Fabricio Werdum - Brazil
2 Junior Dos Santos - Brazil
3 Travis Browne - USA
4 Antonio Silva - Brazil
5 Josh Barnett - USA
6 Alistair Overeem - Dutch-English
7 Stipe Miocic - USA
8 Mark Hunt - New Zealand
9 Roy Nelson - USA
10 Frank Mir - USA
Breakdown of countries:
USA - 60 (counting Velasquez and Munoz as both are American)
Brazil - 20
Russia - 3 (counting Siver)
Questions? Responses?
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05.14.2014 | 3:35 AM ET
BRAZILIANS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD!! You will no sway me with your reality and facts!
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05.14.2014 | 3:47 AM ET
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was a more important invention than the light bulb or telephone. Brazil #1
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05.14.2014 | 3:53 AM ET
Something that I find interesting about those numbers is that the so called Russian invasion has only produced 3 (and I'm being kind with Siver) top 10 fighters. That's a pretty weak invasion.
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05.14.2014 | 4:52 AM ET
I think the invasion's still in its infancy ... also, the invasion is mainly to the middle to top of the pack, not the higher echelon, that usually comes later (if at all). I wouldn't call it weak, but then I wouldn't call it an invasion either :)
Also, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu isn't an invention either, it's a variation of Jiu Jitzu (hence the need for the "Brazilan" prefix) which is actually Japanese :)
Also, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu isn't an invention either, it's a variation of Jiu Jitzu (hence the need for the "Brazilan" prefix) which is actually Japanese :)
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05.14.2014 | 5:24 AM ET
lol!!!
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05.14.2014 | 5:56 AM ET
Einstein can figure out E=MC squared, he can sure as **** figure out how to escape some Brazilians chokehold.
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05.14.2014 | 7:40 AM ET
@Cthulhu you have Michael mcdonald and Carmont listed as canadian but Mcdonald is from California and Carmont is from France .
* Edited at 05.14.2014, 7:41 AM ET *
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05.14.2014 | 8:45 AM ET
You're right, I always thought mayday was Canadian for some reason. Carmont at Tristar messed me up. So, 61 Americans.
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