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Kalibo
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07.06.2011 | 9:20 PM ET

"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved" – Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"

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07.06.2011 | 11:42 PM ET

you forget about one important thing when speakng of title shots.  and thats marketing the fight.  

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07.06.2011 | 11:46 PM ET

I don't necessarily agree w/ that @P4p.  I think you are under-rating them both.

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07.06.2011 | 11:48 PM ET

I suppose if Bisping somehow got a title shot a lot of people would watch so they could see him get KO'd within 2 minutes. Marketing is very important but you still have to earn it. Bisping/Miller are a long ways off from that in my opinion. Oh Sonnen would dominate either one too. I forgot him.

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07.06.2011 | 11:51 PM ET

sonnen dominates everybody in the division prolly other than maia, palhares, and a silva, belfort would be an interesting fight with sonnen as well.

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07.06.2011 | 11:52 PM ET

Just say "Sonnen dominates anyone in the division w/out a black belt in BJJ".

* Edited at 07.06.2011, 11:52 PM ET *

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07.06.2011 | 11:56 PM ET

Sonnen dominates anyone in the division w/out a black belt in BJ.

yeahhh but that aint true.  sonnen can beat some of those dudes...  q; )

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07.06.2011 | 11:57 PM ET

Devil's advocate...

who?

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07.07.2011 | 12:05 AM ET

sonnen could possibly beat palhares if he kept it standing and boxed on the outside.  i cant think of who are all bb bjj mw's but sonnen can beat many of them standing possibly. the problem with a silva is that he is a bigger threat standing.

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07.07.2011 | 12:06 AM ET

You kidding? Sonnen would get subbed by Miller so easily. Miller is very underrated and he'll be a longtime top 10 MW. His groundgame is probably only behind Maia and Palhares. His chin is granite and his standup mixes kicks and punches fairly well.

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07.07.2011 | 12:10 AM ET

dont underestimate the power of chaels wrestling.  a fight with a wrestler like chael would never end "soooo easily" , wrestlers can steal rounds...  if the fight is close in the stand up, then take the guy down with in the last 30 seconds. and sonnen does have decent boxing, not alot of power , but he can stand and bang.  

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07.07.2011 | 12:14 AM ET

Nate Marquardt is a 2nd degree black belt in BJJ and he pretty much got owned in the fight with Chael

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07.07.2011 | 12:21 AM ET

sonnen beats stann easily unless he gets hit with "flush" on the chin or temple by stann. K.S. (the polish experiment) owned stann. it won't be any different here.
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07.07.2011 | 12:22 AM ET


@Soccer hey what's with the Nate bashing? You do have to admit Sonnen gets sub'd more then he should.

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wolfmanhowl
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07.07.2011 | 12:29 AM ET

who do you think hits harder, bryan baker and brian stann? sonnen has already UD'd baker.
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07.07.2011 | 12:47 AM ET

@soccer.. he got owned b/c he has no wrestling at all and never uses his BJJ at all. 

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07.07.2011 | 12:49 AM ET


i would freak out like when anderson won and i destroy my wall with my bear  fist punch 17 holes through my wall into the next room like after silva vs sonnen
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07.07.2011 | 12:50 AM ET


lol @ good.  I feel your pain!

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07.07.2011 | 12:51 AM ET


miller got his ass kicked bye my man chael sonnen
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07.07.2011 | 12:52 AM ET

??

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07.07.2011 | 12:53 AM ET

that really happened to i was grounded til i could pay for the damages

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