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Oddsbot
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01.03.2018 | 12:17 PM ET

This is the official discussion thread for Alves vs. Cummings. Let's see what you've got.

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Bout Cancelled Prior to Event

Reason: Cummings Injury

Mmaweekly large Thiago "Pitbull" Alves
Zak Cummings

cancelled

22-11-0   Pro Record At Fight   21-5-0
+180 (Slight Underdog)   Betting Odds   -220 (Moderate Favorite)
Br Brazil   Nationality   Us United States
Coconut Creek, Florida   Fighting out of   Kansas City, Missouri
34 years, 3 months, 11 days   Age at Fight   33 years, 5 months, 12 days
170.6 lbs (77.4 kgs)   Latest Weight   170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
5'9" (175cm)   Height   6'0" (183cm)
70.0" (178cm)   Reach   75.0" (191cm)
American Top Team   Gym   Springfield Fight Club
Tapology Community Predictions: 980  
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KO/TKO
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Submission
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Decision
Alves
51%
Cummings
49%

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TheClownKid
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01.03.2018 | 12:17 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Absolutely crazy that Thiago Alves is not even a year older than Zak Cummings. I feel like Pitbull is 300 years old.

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01.03.2018 | 6:15 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Submission  |  Round 2

Cummings by submission.

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01.03.2018 | 6:24 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Submission  |  Round 3

Surprised that people are just leaning towards Alves. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if he won but he is smaller, older, more miles on the clock, I'd back Cummings as the better grappler and Alves is painfully inconsistent.
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01.03.2018 | 7:50 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Yeah, I was shocked to see so many people picking Thiago.

I got Zak outworking him and mixing up en route to a competitive decision win.
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01.04.2018 | 7:54 AM ET

Prediction: Alves  |  Decision

You never know with Alves.

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Bearrach
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01.08.2018 | 11:56 AM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Submission  |  Round 2

Cummings has got this - possibly via submission
AnAlias
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01.08.2018 | 1:01 PM ET

Cummings is definitely better than he gets credit it for, but Alves at his best, was waaaay better than Cummings has ever been. It's a hard one to call. 

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01.09.2018 | 12:56 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

cummings is underrated because he lost to ranked guys like gunnar and ponzi, but he has comfortably handled all other ufc competition. he has less miles and a big height/reach advantage. probably more durable too. i guess i just don't trust alves to put together a win streak after a few years of minimal activity.
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01.10.2018 | 7:51 AM ET

Prediction: Alves  |  Decision

I remember when Alves was almost unstoppable. Now almost everyone doubts him.

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Bigj383
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01.10.2018 | 12:21 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Yeah he was unstoppable in a different era. Back we he was 195-200 lbs of solid muscle cutting weight fighting at 170 lbs. That era ended a while ago now. Now he is lucky if he makes it to the ring.

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01.11.2018 | 8:00 AM ET

Prediction: Alves  |  Decision

Yes, the good old days.

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golfy77
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01.12.2018 | 10:53 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Thiago Alves has powerful leg kicks and good timing on the counter, but tends to over-extend his punches and is fighting a southpaw - against whom his leg kicks become less conducive. Zak, on the other hand, can set up his shots well with feints and jabs, but has little to no head movement with his chin up. Zak is the pick, for he has the significant reach advantage over Alves that he knows how to use. Alves will miss his shots more often than he will land, and even the ones landed won't do enough to Zak's strong chin.
Zulizani
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01.13.2018 | 6:51 AM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Cummings is out injured

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rappinpapsoda
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01.13.2018 | 9:26 AM ET

Prediction: Alves  |  Decision

I assume there is no replacement 

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01.13.2018 | 12:08 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Decision

Well that sucks. Alves was good to go ready to fight, was winning the battle to get into the ring, and his opponent gets injured.

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01.13.2018 | 3:53 PM ET

Prediction: Cummings  |  Submission  |  Round 2

Yea, apparently Zak slipped and hit his head on a handrail while coming out of the hot tub during his weight cut. He had to get stitches.

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01.13.2018 | 4:25 PM ET

Prediction: Alves  |  Decision

Almost as bad as when Rsndleman slipped backstage at UFC 24.

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