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12.08.2023 | 11:53 PM ET

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UFC Fight Night
  • Saturday 03.16.2024 at 04:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ESPN+
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC Apex
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Michael Bisping, John Gooden, Dominick Cruz, Heidi Androl
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Marcin Tybura   defeats   Tai Tuivasa   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:08 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Bryan Battle   vs.   Ange Loosa   Ends in a No Contest, Accidental Eye Poke   1:00 Round 2 of 3, 6:00 Total Bout Page
Ovince St. Preux   defeats   Kennedy Nzechukwu   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Christian Rodriguez   defeats   Isaac Dulgarian   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Macy Chiasson   defeats   Pannie Kianzad   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   3:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Gerald Meerschaert   defeats   Bryan Barberena   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:23 Round 2 of 3, 9:23 Total Bout Page
Mike Davis   defeats   Natan Levy   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   1:43 Round 2 of 3, 6:43 Total Bout Page
Chelsea Chandler   defeats   Josiane Nunes   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jafel Filho   defeats   Ode Osbourne   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:27 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Danny Silva   defeats   Josh Culibao   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jaqueline Amorim   defeats   Cory McKenna   via Submission, Armbar   1:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Thiago Moisés   defeats   Mitch Ramirez   via KO/TKO, Leg Kicks   0:15 Round 3 of 3, 10:15 Total Bout Page
Chad Anheliger   defeats   Charalampos Grigoriou   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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Glovetown
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03.07.2024 | 9:11 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2762nd

Why does TAPOLOGY like 1-year layoff McKenna, a grappler with a foot reach disadvantage, to beat a multi time BJJ champion that’s training at ATT?

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03.08.2024 | 10:06 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 3990th

St. Preux got some major cojones to be taking on Nzechukwu given the 9 year age gap at 40.

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03.08.2024 | 10:06 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 3990th

and his chin has been proven to not be the most durable.

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03.09.2024 | 9:30 PM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 3014th

Tuivasa vs. Tybura
Marcin Tybura, SUB, R4
both r tough as nails and the people that have finished them r nuts. tybura goes for a submission when they r both tired as **** and in championship rounds

Battle vs. Loosa
Bryan Battle, TKO, R2
battle on the come up

Rodriguez vs. Dulgarian
Isaac Dulgarian
the lines on these last 2 dulgarian fights r insane when is vegas gonna learn.

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03.10.2024 | 1:41 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 81st

From 299 to this. 😐

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03.10.2024 | 1:55 AM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 4760th

@el_guapo 
TBF Nzechukwu doesn’t have the best chin either. And he shells up & stays stationary too easily when he’s hurt

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03.10.2024 | 3:11 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 1675th

Tuivasa vs. Tybura
Tai Tuivasa, TKO, R1
I think Tybura is very bonkable at this point. Tai R1 KO

Battle vs. Loosa
Bryan Battle, SUB, R2
I really like Bryan Battle, and I trust his finishing instincts.

Nzechukwu vs. St. Preux
Kennedy Nzechukwu, TKO, R1
Good lord this is murder

Meerschaert vs. Barberena
Gerald Meerschaert, SUB, R2
I feel really good about GM3 in this one

Davis vs. Levy
Mike Davis, TKO, R1
I think MIke Davis puts on a show

Moisés vs. Ramirez
Thiago Moisés, SUB, R1
Moises needs to be on the main card.

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03.10.2024 | 4:59 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 592nd

what about Ramirez? can he defend Moises TD? is he good on the feet? 


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03.10.2024 | 5:59 AM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 2196th

Nzechukwu vs. St. Preux
Kennedy Nzechukwu, TKO, R1
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03.10.2024 | 9:56 AM ET

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Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 322nd

Tuivasa vs. Tybura
Tai Tuivasa, TKO, R1
Twrrible main event. Seen a lot of people saying tybura wins but I don’t see it. His style is predicated on taking an ass whooping and then grinding out a gassed opponent. However, that strategy doesn’t work against top 10 heavyweights. I agree with the majority opinion that tai is pretty **** and doesn’t take mma seriously but, he is legitimately a good striker with power. Tybura has a really sus chin and it’s only gotten worse with age. Even against lower level guys like Harris and hardy he was getting rocked badly. Obviously if he survives he will grind out and maybe even sub tai, but I really don’t see his chin holding up here. Tai should sleep him within 2 minutes

Battle vs. Loosa
Ange Loosa, DEC
One of the only good fights on this card, I think this is guaranteed FOTN. Tough to make a pick since I really like both but I’ll take the dog here. Both guys are really good strikers. Battle looks weird on the feet but his striking is deceptively good. He has crazy power since he’s a former HW and his ability to time shots has really impressed me. I’m also a huge fan of loosa, every fight he has is a war. Both of these guys can be rocked (loosa has absurd recovery) but I kind of think battles chin is sus. Loosa’s issue is just that he gets too deep into brawls and will get rocked, but battle legitimately gets wobbled by some really bad fighters. Loosa isn’t really a ko guy but he hits pretty hard so I think he could stun battle. Battle can 100% ko loosa and im really worried about the head kick in particular; loosa is short and it’s going to be there all night for battle. I am siding with loosa because of the wrestling. His wrestling is really good and a common theme in battle fights is that he can’t defend the takedown very well. I think this could look a lot like loosa vs mckee. Very close fight and should be a war but I’ll go with the dog here

Nzechukwu vs. St. Preux
Kennedy Nzechukwu, TKO, R1
Layup for Kennedy. Round 1 Kennedy might be the worst fighter of all time but I have a very hard time seeing how osp wins this. I guess he could bonk Kennedy early but osp’s killer instinct has been gone for a very long time. Hes basically half retired and all he wants to do in the cage is have a sparring match. Kennedy could very easily finish this in 2 minutes but I could also see him taking a while to wake up. Either way he should steamroll osp with very little resistence

Rodriguez vs. Dulgarian
Christian Rodriguez, TKO, R2
I really don’t get the odds here. Dilgsrians oath to victory is very cleee here but someone needs to explain to me how he’s the favorite when he hasn’t fought anyone with a pulse and hasn’t been tested in any facet of mma. Don’t get me wrong, he looks like a killer but he has legitimately faced 0 resistence in his career. I don’t think I’ve seen him miss a takedown, he hasn’t fought anyone who can grapple off of their back, he hasn’t fought anyone who’s a good striker, and the cherry on top, hes never gone past 5 minutes. Now again, dulgarian actually looks very skilled but just because he steamrolls these guys doesn’t mean he can do that to anyone. Ceerod’s tdd is actually pretty bad when I watched his fights but he is a ******* dog on the mat. He won’t accept bottom position and is a very good grappler. He will 100% get takedowns here but I don’t think ceerod is going to lie on his back and get smashed like everyone dukgsrian has fought before. Dulgsrian looks to hit very hard but ceerod is a monster on the feet; I love watching him strike. I also don’t think ceerod moving up disadvantages him at all. Anyone who’s seen his ufc debut knows that ceerod fits into the weight class fine (he was hanging I. There with a huge FW and he weighed in at 146 so u know he’s massive). Also, dulgarian has an identical frame and build to ceerod, so it’s not like he’s fighting some massive dude again. Maybe Dulgarian is that legit and dogwalks ceerod but I can’t ignore how big of a step up this is for Dulgarian

Kianzad vs. Chiasson II
Macy Chiasson, DEC
Pannie one of the only fighters I have 0 recollections of her fights. Probably because she is an incredibly boring point fighter who just clinches to win. I actually did watch their first fight and chiasson dominated it. Obviously pannie has improved and we know rematches never go the same way but I feel like chiasson is just better. Can’t be too confident because she appears to be a basket case, has weight issues, and is on a long layoff but I think chiasson uses her big **** strength to grind this one out

Meerschaert vs. Barberena
Gerald Meerschaert, SUB, R3
Kind of impossible to pick barberena atp but weirdly enough I think he could have his moments. GM3 is a good vet but every time he gets these layup fights, he reminds us why he has nearly 20 losses. Barberena is a terrible striker but he never stops coming forward and we know gm3 is pretty bad on the feet. Weirdly enough, he can hold his own against guys who should sleep him but against guys like this I think he might struggle. Luckily for him, barberena can’t stop a td to save his life and has negative grappling. I actually think gm3 is gonna have trouble holding him down but I think eventually he finds something. I honestly don’t even know what barberena is doing with his career. He hasn’t been the same since that surgery and he has 0 business at 185; that last performance was embarrassing, he just showed up for a paycheck and dipped

Davis vs. Levy
Mike Davis, DEC
Who did levy piss off? Ufc was building him up and honestly he was getting worse and worse opponents each fight. Now that he finally pulled out of a fight they give him one of the best unranked guys in the divison???? Makes no sense at all. I legit don’t see a path to victory for levy here. I’ve always liked his striking but he is incredibly uncomfortable in the standup and gassed badly when he has to trade with people. Davis is just a killer on the feet, his boxing is so crisp and he throws some disgusting combos. It gets worse for levy when you realize Davis was a grappler before he learned how to strike. He’s got very good tdd and I believe is a black belt. Levy is a solid grappler but I don’t see him being able to do much to Davis. Could see a ko here but I think this is gonna be a vicious beatdown by Davis

Nunes vs. Chandler
Chelsea Chandler, TKO, R1
I’m really shocked by all the odds here. Yes, I know chandler got embarrassed but there’s a huuuuge difference between norma dumont, who is a real and legit fighter, vs fighting the ape that is Josiane nunes. Dumont has actual skills and chandler shouldn’t have been in the cage with her, nunes on the other hand is talentless. Her only move is spamming overhands because she hits kind of hard. Chelsea is no technical striker but I think she’s much cleaner than nunes and enjoys a pretty big size advantage. Most of her regional tape she just uses her size to bully girls and I think she can do that here. Nunes might be 3-0in the ufc but look at who she’s fought, part time fighters who are scared of the power and won’t throw back. Even when you watch those fights they are very ugly, I mean **** fairn was having moments against her. Now nunes is facing another bully who is much bigger than her and will likely shoot takedowns (nunes is clueless on the ground). Another big thing here is the weight, chandler I know can make 135 but not so sure about nunes. She’s 5”2 so if she could comfortably make 135 she would’ve been there from the jump. Either way I’m actually really confident in chandler as weird as that sounds

Osbourne vs. Filho
Jafel Filho, SUB, R1
One of my more confident picks of the card. Never been an ode fan and I think the writing is on the wall here. On the feet I think it’s competitive but if filho lets his hands go for once he can easily outpoint ode. Ode is super dynamic and uses crazy movements but he has terrible defense and just does really stupid things on the feet (who could forget when Tyson nam bonked him off of a telegraphed flying knee). I actually really like filho’s striking but he seems uncomfortable to use it. When he lets his hands go, they are really sharp. He hits pretty hard and throws his combos tight. Most of the time tho he just sits back and leg kicks. However the grappling is where he will dominate. Ode’s wrestling background always gets brought up but it is pretty trash. Filho on the other hand has awesome td attempts, if he gets the body lock he will do everything in his grappling arsenal to get the fight down. A little concerning since he uses a ton of gas and has suspect cardio but he shouldn’t have much trouble getting it down. Even if he does, odes cardio is also bad so shouldn’t be an issue. Once filho gets this to the ground is wraps. Ode is like a blue belt or something and gets subbed all the time, filho on the other hand is a very legit grappler and will take any sub you give him. I think this is a filho domination

Moisés vs. Ramirez
Thiago Moisés, SUB, R2
Ramirez is trash. At 155 I think he is better but still really unimpressed with him; that last guy he fought was insanely bad so can’t take much from that. I think Moises has him covered everywhere. Moises is a little uncomfortable in the standup but Ramirez is very hittable and pretty slow so he should be fine. Grappling isn’t close, Ramirez never had great tdd and Moises is a really solid grappler. Maybe this gets extended longer than it should but I think Moises will do what he wants here

Culibao vs. Silva
Josh Culibao, DEC
Don’t get the matchmaking here. Culibao is a solid vet and now he’s fighting a debutant. Not only that but these two don’t even fight the same way; Silva is a guns blazing brawler where culibao is a technical sniper. Silva is really fun to watch but I think he’s terrible. His dwcs fight was great but he fought a very low level guy and kept letting him back into the fight despite hurting him badly 4-5 times. Despite the pace and pressure I’m not even that impressed with his striking; he keeps his guard super low and is all boxing. I could see Josh struggling with the output of Silva since he is a counter striker but at the same time Silva leaves so many openings that I think Josh should easily snipe him wit something. Weirdly enough I think culibao might try and wrestle here; he’s never attempted a takedown so likely wishful thinking but Silva can’t grapple that well and leaves lots of openings for takedowns. Pretty weird fight honestly, idk why they matched these two up

McKenna vs. Amorim
Jaqueline Amorim, DEC
Odds are very accurate here. I first thought this was gonna be a win for McKenna but after watching her fights, idk anymore. She should’ve lost to Kay Hansen and then her only two wins in the ufc are against part time fighters who can’t grapple. Despite the 10 inch reach disadvantage I favor McKenna standing. She has trex arms and shoddy defense but her boxing is solid and she’s definitely more comfortable standing. Amorim is pretty powerful and has a huge reach but she looks so nervous when she strikes. She kind of panics a little and throws all her shots looping. I think in round 1 though the reach advantage should prevent McKenna from doing much. McKenna has to stand to win though, if she tries to grapple her way to a win I don’t think it will end well. I could see her riding out top control but you don’t want to hang on the mat with Amorim. Even if she can’t wrestle that well her bjj is nasty and she could easily get a sweep here. While her grappling is insanely high level, I kind of think amorims sub threat is overrated. She’s a monster on the ground but considering her accolades I find it very strange she hasn’t subbed anyone despite 6 very deep sub attempts

Anheliger vs. Grigoriou
Charalampos Grigoriou, TKO, R2
I Feel like this could actually be close. Chara has some nasty ko’s and def has good power but he’s fought a lot of cans. Last real person he fought was ceerod and that fight was incredibly one sided. His hands are solid, really good counter striker and his hooks can ko you in one punch but he’s also really low volume and pretty hittable. I remembered him having really good leg kicks but watching his fights back they’re just ok; he throws a ton but they arent super damaging. Oddly enough I’m most impressed with his wrestling. He never uses it but I think he’s got very good takedowns and has shown me very good tdd. Despite his flaws I think this is a super favorable matchup for him. Chad is lucky to be here and his ufc fights have reflected that; like chara he has power in his hands and is a good counter striker but Chad is just really bad. He’s old, very stiff, and slow. He’s pretty much all hands, can’t grapple, and has bad defense. Chara could get bonked but I think he can just outvolume Chad on the feet and chip away with leg kicks. I actually think we get a ko here; Chad never been slept but he’s gotten rocked by some not very hard shots and his defense sucks

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03.10.2024 | 11:03 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 1345th

Is Kianzad the first fighter, male or female in any division, to fight in 3 rematches in a row?

I don't really get the matchmaking here. Why not matchup Chandler vs. Chiasson and Kianzad vs. Nunes to try and shake up this division a bit? This is the worst division in the promotion without question yet we're getting ANOTHER rematch. I just don't understand the logic here behind doing more of the same over and over again when it's not interesting and nobody cares. 


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03.10.2024 | 1:38 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 689th

I just remembered Chelsea Chandler is the fighter who legit turned around and started running away from her opponent before crashing against the cage and getting immortalized forever in the UFC. 🤣

If you are picking her in this one, I don't even know what to say besides don't be surprised when she folds to striking. 

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03.10.2024 | 1:55 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 333rd

Culibao vs. Silva
Josh Culibao, DEC
Silva shows up to show out, but Culibao may have been the worst stylistic matchup he could get for his debut.

Anheliger vs. Grigoriou
Chad Anheliger, DEC
I see an upset here

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03.10.2024 | 1:56 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 4144th

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03.10.2024 | 2:16 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 322nd

@vic as I said in my breakdown, there’s a massive difference between fighting dumont and nunes. Dumont is bigger than Chandler and happens to be good in every facet of mma. Nunes is a midget and the only weapon in her striking arsenal is throwing wild overhands and hoping something lands. I think Chandler is terrible but she has fought (and beaten) much better girls than nunes has. I rate her win over Stoliarenko higher than anyone nunes has fought. She may be 3-0 in the ufc but she has faced literal soccer moms who crumble under pressure. I do agree that chandlers last fight was a terrible look but again, dumont is leagues above nunes in the striking department. Maybe nunes cracks her with an overhand but I think chandler is just going to use her size and wrestling to bully nunes

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03.10.2024 | 2:26 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 689th

In a wmma fight I learned not to be confident in anyone's striking, even if they look like they know what they are doing in one fight expect them to show up forgetting how to do it in the next one. 

On the fact that Chandler is bigger then Nunes I dont think it will be a huge problem for Nunes because she already faced much taller and bigger opponents before (Bea Malecki for exemple). 

What i think will happen is: The fight will be mostly on the feet with both having sucess but Nunes being more agressive and landing more in the pocket while Chandler backs away from the pressure. Nunes wins by decision. 

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03.10.2024 | 3:02 PM ET

@VicStrk

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3202nd



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03.10.2024 | 3:04 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 333rd

Davis vs. Levy
Mike Davis, DEC
David’s huge what if bro decided **** a career I just wanna kick ass every couple years

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03.10.2024 | 3:18 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 689th

@Gliese  Such a great meme template. 🤣 

I rewatched the fight and Dominick and DC could not belive *** they just witnessed. It's so ******* funny man. 

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03.10.2024 | 4:10 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 986th

Tuivasa vs. Tybura
Tai Tuivasa, TKO, R1
These next 4 cards are really gonna test us as MMA fans. If tybura can survive the first 2 rounds then he might grind out a decision win but I think Tuivasa has enough power to get a KO in the first 2 rounds. Tybura is chinny and doesn't really have any threat to keep Tuivasa worried

Battle vs. Loosa
Bryan Battle, TKO, R3
Close fight. Loosa is underrated but I've seen him get rocked all over the place in his last 2 wins. Yes he was tough enough to survive but I think if guys like AJ Fletcher and Rhys McKee are hurting you then Battle can get a finish in this fight

Nzechukwu vs. St. Preux
Kennedy Nzechukwu, TKO, R2
Ovince "just showing up for a paycheck" st preux.

Rodriguez vs. Dulgarian
Christian Rodriguez, DEC
Rodriguez takedown defense is probably his weakest part of his game but he's good enough to not get held down or finished on the ground & I don't trust Dulgarians cardio or (lack of) fight experience f he can't get a 1st round finish

Kianzad vs. Chiasson II
Macy Chiasson, DEC
Why must women's bantamweight exist

Meerschaert vs. Barberena
Gerald Meerschaert, SUB, R3
Barberena has trash grappling defense

Davis vs. Levy
Mike Davis, DEC
I wish Mike davis fought more than once every year and a half but I think he's a way better fighter than levy

Nunes vs. Chandler
Josiane Nunes, DEC
Chandler is way bigger so maybe she can outgrapple nunes but I think nunes will win via damage. Who gives a ****

Osbourne vs. Filho
Jafel Filho, SUB, R3
I just think ode is an easy guy to sub or ko

Moisés vs. Ramirez
Thiago Moisés, DEC
Ramirez is a can and coming in on short notice

Culibao vs. Silva
Josh Culibao, DEC
Culibao has much more experience against better competition

Anheliger vs. Grigoriou
Chad Anheliger, DEC
Fading the 8-3 31 year old can crusher making his ufc debut. Anheliger isn't anything special but I think he can get the upset

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