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UFC 280: Oliveira vs. Makhachev

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03.18.2022 | 1:52 PM ET

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UFC 280
  • Saturday 10.22.2022 at 10:30 AM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: Etihad Arena
  • Location: Abu Dhabi, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Paul Felder, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Daniel Cormier
  • Attendance: 13,400
  • MMA Bouts: 12
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Bout   Info
Islam Makhachev   defeats   Charles Oliveira   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   3:16 Round 2 of 5, 8:16 Total Bout Page
Aljamain Sterling   defeats   T.J. Dillashaw   via KO/TKO, Strikes From Back Mount   3:44 Round 2 of 5, 8:44 Total Bout Page
Sean O'Malley   defeats   Petr Yan   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Beneil Dariush   defeats   Mateusz Gamrot   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Manon Fiorot   defeats   Katlyn Cerminara   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Belal Muhammad   defeats   Sean Brady   via KO/TKO, Punches (standing TKO)   4:47 Round 2 of 3, 9:47 Total Bout Page
Caio Borralho   defeats   Makhmud Muradov   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Nikita Krylov   defeats   Volkan Oezdemir   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Abubakar Nurmagomedov   defeats   Gadzhi Omargadzhiev   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Armen Petrosyan   defeats   AJ Dobson   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Muhammad Mokaev   defeats   Malcolm Gordon   via Submission, Armbar   4:26 Round 3 of 3, 14:26 Total Bout Page
Karol Rosa   defeats   Lina Länsberg   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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Asskickryu
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10.12.2022 | 10:10 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 1741st

Jailton can smash all LHW
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10.13.2022 | 6:37 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

Watch J****** get the ever living **** roasted out of him and then backpedaling and goin ”n-no guys im only talking one person! 🥺” is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever seen

* Edited at 10.13.2022, 9:13 AM ET *

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10.13.2022 | 8:59 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 929th


DrChaotic's secret dream is Dagestani all team bath.

Why he is so mad.
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10.13.2022 | 9:03 AM ET

Vandal

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

you're the only Dagestani fanboy here lil bro 

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DrChaotic
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10.13.2022 | 9:13 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

Lmao tf are you talking about Cringedal? Gtfoh with your weird ass fantasies thats YOUR very public dream 🤣
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DrChaotic
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10.13.2022 | 9:13 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

@El222 I'd say that too but his butt buddy J****** is also in here so he's not the only one lol
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paulopasta
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10.13.2022 | 9:42 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 931st

I swear bro this has been 30 straight pages of arguing about the main event🤣

* Edited at 10.13.2022, 9:42 AM ET *

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10.13.2022 | 1:31 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 269th

This Oliveira vs Islam is gonna be sick one of the fights of the year if Charles can stay off his back

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10.13.2022 | 2:47 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 4600th

Yeah if Charles triangles beardy in under a round it will suck LMAOROFL!

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Vandal
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10.13.2022 | 3:58 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 929th


You really believe Charles will win? Funny

Fremen
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10.13.2022 | 4:06 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

oh stop talking ****, we heard you, Islam is gonna win, why are you for like a tenth time starting an arguement... We get your opinion, no need to make fun of people believing someone on 11 fight win streak against top competition on a world scale will win.. 

"****."

Vandal
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10.13.2022 | 4:11 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 929th

yeah and how do you see Charles winning? Gimme some insights
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10.13.2022 | 4:21 PM ET

Fremen

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

It's just tons of fanboys opinion, This discussion between people on main event has been the most toxic it been ever on Tapology, Just because people disagree with you on a close ass fight, you shouldn't insult them, I think people should be a bit more civil talking fights, 

"Quack quack quack"

DrChaotic
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10.13.2022 | 4:21 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

By literally any method he wants and then ******* your mom. Jesus Islam (lol religion paradox) fans are brain dead (though let's be honest they're just coping Khabib fans). This is why you can't argue with them, cause they say stupid **** like "imagine thinking the proven world champion who's defied the odds time and time again is gonna win lul" 
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10.13.2022 | 4:21 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

I have yet to meet a single pleasant Khabib fan that doesn't bring up his ******* padded record or downplay his opponents. Not one. I'm still looking but at this point idk if this exist. Can someone who thinks Islam will win but also has a brain enter this conversation? 
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Fremen
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10.13.2022 | 4:34 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

this guy is either trolling and provoking for fun, or just has problems with understanding an avarage sentence

"****."

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10.13.2022 | 4:36 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 4094th

Oliveira vs. Makhachev
Charles Oliveira, SUB, R5
I think the reason why people are arguing about this fight is that Islam is pretty much a full enigma. What do we actually know about him?  We know for sure that he has one of the best win streaks ever in the lightweight division (1. Khabib,2.Tony,3.Charles,4.Islam) but he's never has had the type of competition to really make it clear that he's on the level that those three were at in their primes.  His best win to date is Armen.  That is a great win and continues to be one.  Followed by a tie of Hooker, Moises, and Green, which he finished. Those people are decently good competition. Not contender, but definitely top 25.  That's about it for things we know.  Very small list.  When people say he's more well rounded than Khabib, I automatically just think that means is a worse wrestler.  He's not the pure MMA athlete Khabib is (whether its Chin, speed, strength, or cardio).  And if I am wrong and he is all that, we just don't know to what scale he is those things.  Cause he's never been tested.  The one time he was resulted in a KO loss, and that was so far back I don't think its productive to think that has any bearing on who he is today.  Now for the speculation:  Can he hurt Charles on the feet like Chandler, Poirier, or Gaethje could?  I'd be incredibly surprised if he could.  Can he out wrestle/grapple Charles?  Maybe?  I would've loved to see Islam fight Kevin Lee like Charles did.  Because Charles was making Kevin work from those grappling positions, but still was losing the fight because he was on his back taking some ground n pound.  How does Islam do over 5 rounds with adversity?  Because I believe he will be able to take Charles down and grapple with him, but it's going to be the best grappler he has ever fought in an actual fight (sure he's fought Khabib in the gym, but in the cage it's completely different, and Armen was very short notice) and we don't know how the gas tank is around the championship rounds.  We have the moises fight, but he had so little challenge on the mat, I don't think that would've tested his gas tank even a little bit.  My pick is based on two primary forms of reasoning; Whoever wins will be dictating the fight in the later rounds, and Charles doesn't seem to get particularly tired even through adversity (i.e. hellish grappling exchanges with Lee and a quite decent pace with Dustin and Tony).  And the second thing is that I just know so much more about Chucky Olives.  And the safest bet is to go where you have more accurate data than where you don't. 

But I wouldn't be surprised if he wins, cause Islam is good, but I just want to know how good he is. 

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10.13.2022 | 5:44 PM ET

@snakeinthegrass

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

Solid assessment. I doubt Charles subs him cause the Dagestani wrestlers tend to have good submission defense, but I wouldn't mind being wrong.


Islam mentioned in a tweet from a week or two ago that he planned to take it slow in the early rounds and figure Oliveira out. I wonder if he is serious about that, because Oliviera has never given anyone a warm up round with his heavy attack style (at least not in his recent fights). In order to get to the later rounds against  Oliveira you need to be able to weather the initial storm. If Islam really believes he gets a round to figure things out it will be a quick night. 

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10.13.2022 | 6:03 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 898th

Hmm. If that's true (which I doubt) I have a bit more confidence in Oliveira. He comes out guns blazing from the first second. There is no "figuring out" period with him, you either give it your all or die
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10.13.2022 | 6:07 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points   |   Tied for 3130th

ik I've been crapping on Islam (in terms of his level of competition) but he's a smart fighter, that's undeniable. everyone in that camp is. he isn't stupid enough to think he's gonna be able to take the first round slow. it's all mind games

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