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UFC 269: Oliveira vs. Poirier

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Saturday 12.11.2021 at 06:00 PM ET
U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Ownership: Endeavor
Venue: T-Mobile Arena
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Enclosure: Octagon
TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
Attendance: 18,471
PPV Buys / Buyrate: 500,000 | TV Ratings: 729,000 avg. viewers (ESPN2 prelims)
MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout		Info
Charles Oliveira defeats Dustin Poirier via Submission, Rear Naked Choke		1:02 Round 3 of 5, 11:02 Total Bout Page
Julianna Peña defeats Amanda Nunes via Submission, Rear Naked Choke		3:26 Round 2 of 5, 8:26 Total Bout Page
Geoff Neal defeats Santiago Ponzinibbio via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kai Kara-France defeats Cody Garbrandt via KO/TKO, Punches		3:21 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Sean O'Malley defeats Raulian Paiva via KO/TKO, Punches		4:42 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Josh Emmett defeats Dan Ige via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dominick Cruz defeats Pedro Munhoz via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tai Tuivasa defeats Augusto Sakai via KO/TKO, Punches		0:26 Round 2 of 3, 5:26 Total Bout Page
Bruno Silva defeats Jordan Wright via KO/TKO, Punches		1:28 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
André Muniz defeats Eryk Anders via Submission, Armbar		3:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Erin Blanchfield defeats Miranda Maverick via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ryan Hall defeats Darrick Minner via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tony Kelley defeats Randy Costa via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound		4:15 Round 2 of 3, 9:15 Total Bout Page
Gillian Robertson defeats Priscila Cachoeira via Submission, Rear Naked Choke		4:59 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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: flamingobambi

12.06.2021 | 7:49 AM ET

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Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 585 Points | Tied for 1329th

Oliveira vs. Poirier
Charles Oliveira, SUB, R4
Banger of a fight. Bias put aside, I still think Oliveira should be able to get this done with the takedowns. The double leg is viable, and it's been shown in the past. I'm gonna say guillotine choke in a good fight.

Kara-France vs. Garbrandt
Kai Kara-France, TKO, R3
I think Rob laid a blueprint to beating Cody. Back at 135, the chin wasn't as much of an issue as Cody's recklessness was, and although he's seemingly addressed that, the additional 10-pound cut creates some questions. Now with all that damage taken, I think Kai plants a straight right on his chin with his newfound KO power and finishes him off in a war.

O'Malley vs. Paiva
Sean O'Malley, DEC
Want Paiva to take this dub but Sean is too damn good. Paiva builds into fights, whereas Sean controls from the get-go. Expect lots of variance of rhythm and a striking masterclass. Maybe if Paiva's having a great day he'll amount to some ground control but nothing too significant.

Emmett vs. Ige
Josh Emmett, DEC
Truthfully I'm very iffy on this pick. If Emmett was healthy and at his best, I'd pick him with a little more confidence, but after the damage to his knee, I've no idea what he'll look like; especially when his style is very reliant on power and planting his feet. We shall see.

Perez vs. Schnell
Alex Perez, TKO, R2
Schnell should not win this. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he does.

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12.06.2021 | 9:51 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 3531st

@chrispm The Cub swanson loss was super weird too, it either looked like Charles had an orbital injury or it was a delayed KO like we saw with Burgos. I think Dustin is gonna box him up nicely

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12.06.2021 | 10:04 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

I think people gotta realize that fighters change. I literally was saying these exact same things about him quitting when he fought chandler. He’s clearly not that same person just because Dustin is a good boxer does not mean he’s going to make Charles quit. Everyone has questionable losses on their record; Dustin went to the shadow realm against MJ

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AyyLmaonnaise

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12.06.2021 | 10:05 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

People don’t just quit in the highest level of the sport (unless you are aljamain)

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12.06.2021 | 10:22 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 14 Winners, 1 Perfect, 385 Points | Tied for 3584th

This card looks amazing ,i can't wait to see it

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12.06.2021 | 10:29 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 1650th

Can we take a second to realize that if that first round went on a minute longer , Charles would of lost

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12.06.2021 | 10:30 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 1650th

Chandler is the only top guy he's fought in 4 years. Give or take Ferguson because he got destroyed by Gaethje. The people Charles lost to , Dustin embarrassed.

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12.06.2021 | 10:34 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 1650th

Also , his output is very minimal.. avg 30 punches a fight with 2.5 takedowns. Dustin will push the pace and Charles will be finished against the cage.

He also absorbs as much as he puts out.

* Edited at 12.06.2021, 10:36 AM ET *

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12.06.2021 | 10:36 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

idk if we can use the pace argument, remember how well that worked out for us against smolka? 😂

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12.06.2021 | 10:37 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 1650th

Smolka is dumb for standing with him and got bombed on. Left his guard down the whole fight.

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12.06.2021 | 10:37 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 560 Points | Tied for 1650th

Dustin has the best stand up in that weight.

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12.06.2021 | 10:37 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

but yes, if that first round was going on longer it would have been chandler with the belt. But, it didn't go on longer so there no point on dwelling on it. The rules of mma aren't going to change if Charles gets hurt in the last 30 seconds of this fight too

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12.06.2021 | 10:43 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

on another note, I have this weird feeling costa might lose. if it somehow ends up on the ground Kelley could sub him

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12.06.2021 | 10:47 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 3531st

Dustin getting KO'd is different, everyone loses but Chucky Olives has 3-4 fights where it looks like he gave up. Fighters absolutely "quit", maybe it's not something people wanna admit about someone they cheer for, but it's true. You can see it in the way some fighters tap, Blachowicz is a recent example, he wanted out of the Glover fight and did not hesitate to tap. Other guys would rather break an arm or leg in a fight and try to hide it.

Dustin went to sleep against TKZ and barely got to tap against Khabib. Charles always looks like he's spamming the tap button when he loses. He may have "changed" but the Chandler fight is the only time we've seen him push through a bad spot. I think it's too early to say Oliveira is this new, invincible man because he didn't give up once for a change. His track record is still highly questionable, I'm still not totally sold on his heart yet.

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12.06.2021 | 10:52 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

maybe he gave up because he didn't want to take unnecessary damage? Theres a reason hes been in the ufc for song, maybe its because he didn't want to take any more punishment and live to fight another day. The cub and the felder losses were silly ill admit, but do you really blame him against Holloway? he had an esophageal tear, he could have died

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12.06.2021 | 10:54 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

also did you see how much it meant to Olivier to win that title? do you really think hes gonna just give up everything he worked for because dustin punches hard? Its so rare to see a champ just throw away their belt, I know we saw it was jan but he did say he wasn't himself that night so im inclined to believe he was dealing with some personal stuff

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12.06.2021 | 10:58 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

im not just saying this to prove a point btw, I just dont want people to make the same mistake I did. Yes, we have a small sample size of one fight, but a title fight is vastly different than losing a match when you are unranked. There are much heavier implications and this title means everything to him; I think hes gonna go out on his shield

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12.06.2021 | 11:00 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 3531st

OK so if he's taking damage in a fight with Poirier (not unlikely), will he elect to tap out and fight another day? If you say yes, then I think we agree. I'm more talking about the Pettis/Lamas losses where he spams to tap out of a guillotine. Certain guys just don't tap like that, it's a last resort. Who knows, maybe we'll see Dustin go for his neck.

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12.06.2021 | 11:08 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

yeah but I think its highly unlikely we see him tap. As I said, everyone has questionable losses; just because he got tapped out doesn't mean dustin can or will tap him out. Also those losses are at FW; Charles was dog**** at FW as it was not his weight class. Those losses were also 5 years ago, its crazy to assume Charles hasn't evolved as a fighter so I doubt he ends up in those compromising positions.

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12.06.2021 | 11:10 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 757th

and yeah it was a last resort but sometimes chokes get sunk in. You really think fluffy Hernandez is actually good enough to sub Vieira normally? no, **** happens its mma. I dont think its fair to hold something Charles did 5 years ago in a different weight class against him. as I said, everyone has questionable losses, beniel got tapped by brown belt chiesa lol

* Edited at 12.06.2021, 11:15 AM ET *

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