UFC 247: Jones vs. Reyes

The official Tapology discussion thread for the event!

@Zulizani

Watch ONE Championship and PFL, the integrity of the sport does matter in those promotions.

I’m gonna keep my discussion in this thread I don’t need the multiple others, No matter how worthy or extra special some of the self viewed high and mighty deem their own arguments above others...

Well, before I posted my view on the fight I had already watched the fight twice, as I knew it was a very tough close fight to judge. However, I did decide to run it back one more time and watch very intently. 

I stand by my original post on the fight. Reyes clearly won the first and Jones the fifth. From the second on Reyes would come out the gate off the bell throwing heat. Some landed flush but a lot of it was deflected or just missed. It’s very tough to see but Jones’ defense was on point. Reyes leg attacks were excellent. Again, Reyes best work was early in each round. After the first minute and half to two minutes he slowed down vastly and Jones would methodically take over and land, even if at a slower more spaced out pace.

It was the kind of fight that does, IMO warrant a rematch.  I thought the Gus 1 did as well. I agree with Yoss that I’d rather it sooner  than later, while he’s on top of his game with the same fire. However, I disagree it was a clear win for Reyes, no matter what % fish thinks he is sure of. haha <3

That said, it was not, IMO, a clear win for Jones either. It was a really close fight. So though I may lovingly tease I do not blame, fault or judge in any manner anyone with another take on the fight. I just see it as a fight Reyes could’ve won but got caught up in his early storms then letting up late in rounds and definitely late in the fight. Take it as a learning experience and get that strap next time. He’d make a great and very entertaining champ. I like the guy a lot as a fighter. 

I have spoken

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Yeah, but the real question is who fought with the most Honour and Respect!!!!?????

Once we decide who that is, only then will we know the real winner because it is all about HONOUR AND RESPECT!!!

@Mikey1903

If the Jones/Reyes fight had been scored by ONE Championship rules, Reyes probably would have won, but promotions like the UFC insist on using a scoring system that was designed to judge sports where only striking is allowed to judge a sport where striking, wrestling, and groundfighting are allowed.

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I keep hearing commotion about how many robberies took place this weekend but I believe the right person got their hand raised in every fight. 

Juan Adams has been cut from the UFC
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/02/juan-adams-announces-ufc-release-following-loss-to-justin-tafa

@jake thank god! It’s about damn time

You are correct in your evaluation but by no means was this "Unanimous" and should have been at least a "Split Decision" or a "Draw"- One of the judges was on his cell phone during most of the fights and we all know which one that was !!!!  Also any fight fan knows that when a Champion fighter goes the distance the opponent is not going to be given the decision - So my advice for Reyes is to finish him in the rematch and keep it out of the judges hands.

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@Axl702

 Deep inside we all know that Dana White and the UFC knew who was going to win this fight if it went the distance. This is all about money and even Vegas has some input. They would have lost millions if Reyes was given what he earned. #andnewUFCLHWpeopleschampion

I am basically saying that I am 100% confident that five round Championship Fights that go to decision are definitely fixed and what I stated prior about the situation that led Dana to flee to Vegas in fear of his life and the person who was caught with the $1.6 million plus in cash, also was caught 5 miles from the Beach Home that Dana's Son watched UFC 247. The proof is, as previously mentioned, Chapter 3 in the Book, A Black Mass, which refers to the fixing of Horse Racing that was a 2 minute ride from the same city in which the aforementioned 2, and myself are from. I can't see how the #1 most wanted man in the country was in plain sight in CA, legitimately 5 minutes away from D.W's beach house and the fact that D.W owed him $$ for prior occasions that led D.W to flee. My evidence that Fights, and mainly 5 round Title Fights, that go the distance are fixed, is a mere formality, I will give you 3 of the most controversial decisions in 5 round Title Fights and I still have not been answered by anyone as to why Rounds 1 and 2 are predominantly scored before the Fight even began. 1, J.Jones v.s D. Reyes, rds 1 and 2 are typed in M. Rosales, J. Solis and C.Lee all 10-9 for Reyes, again typed in, Rd2, M.Rosales and J. Solis 10-9, Jones and C.Lee 10-9 Reyes, 58-57 Reyes/2. Here is the common denominator in the 3 Fights, A. What does Championship Rounds mean? Well obviously the way they are supposed to score, it is obvious that they don't. Rosales round 3 10-9 Reyes, Rd 4 and Rd 5 Jones, 48-47 Jones. Solis Rd3, 4, and 5 Jones, and C.Lee Rds 3-5 10-9 Jones which is 48-47 49-46 48-48 Jones, that is in sequential order as score cards read, yet the 49-46 was read last leaving many to believe that Reyes won. I am not going to type anymore, but please and I urge you to look at Judge 1 and 3 in Jones v.s Gus 1and then Judge 2's card exactly the same. GSP v.s Hendricks 1 and 2 leaves Hendricks up 58-57, which is BS, if you watch the Fight  Hendricks easily won Rounds 1,2 and 4, but all 3 judges Scorecards had GSP winning 3 and 5 making it a Split Decision, my point is that without a doubt that the fix is in in 5 Rd Title Fights that go the Distance in all 3 cases the Challenger was up 58-57/2, but the human Jugdes are only scoring rounds 3-5, call me what you want, but I am making an opinion, based upon facts that I am positive that happened in the pre UFC era.

@tepid Rizin treats their fighters like stars. Every single one. A little bit of production goes a long way. I would suggest, with their billions, the UFC could do the same. Would certainly help them with the infinite no name undercard model they insist on sticking with. PPVs full of junk with no production equals me keeping my hard earned. Juan Adams anybody? Anybody at all? 

Only Robberies that took place on that night were either in banks, or if someone was seriously desperate, a Liquor store, It is long overdue that the issue is put to bed, nothing is going to change, except if that creepy crawling PicoMeister comes around again, now I am interested in someone's input as to what the deal with Diego "MoonRock," is? Who Fights like that, A, and who picks up there corner at a day laborers a.m hangout? Damn, go back and give some Street Cred to Lionheart, he could have pulled a Diego and been set for life. Now Dana's BF, wants to Fight the Power? Proves that he is a JOKE, suck it up Conor and let Gaethje throw one on you.

I'm not sure Why, and I am serious with no bias unless Gamebed, Gaethje, of Tony Ferguson are  in the Octagon, but I am completely convinced that the 3 Fights I mentioned were fixed, and I am stating it because of the way Rounds 1 and 2 are scored in all 3 Fights. It literally is the truth if you look at it and rewatch the Fights, most obviously was Hendricks v.s GSP, it was so clear that over 97.4% of the public scored Rds 1,2, and 4 for Hendricks and 3 and 5 for GSP, and I watched it 2 times and scored it 2 times and then I looked at the cards, and I noticed the same thing happened in all 3 fights, the eventual loser was up after 2 rounds and in GSP v.s Hendricks it was as clear as day Hendricks won 1,2, and 4 and you could argue that he won Rd. 2 also, I want clarity as to why the Scorecards  have Rounds 1 and 2 typed in the sheet. I asked my boy who I am not going to name other than the fact that he is the #10 Featherweight in THE UFC, and I caught him off guard, I was only throwing the other thing out there possibly as a conspiracy theorist, however, I am not lying about the situation I mentione . Look it  up, Kevin Weekes, Dana White, and Whitey B.

Yes Irish, I actually live in the same place where Dana White grew up, but I was referring to the specific Man who was responsible for him fleeing to Las Vegas and you come to find out that 3 years ago however long it was when he was caught by the Marshals, with well over $1 ,million in cash, and less than 5 miles from Dana's Beach House in California  how did a man who was on the run for 15+ years get all of the money in cash? It just got me wondering.

I have 3 times and I'm not biased against either Fighter, however after reading the rules of which they were fighting under, Jones definitely won. I'd say at least 1/2 of the straight shots that appeared to hit Jon, in reality, his defense is impeccable. I wasn't aware that if the judges under the old rules, if they thought that the strikes were even, they would next go to exactly what Jon Jones did 90% of the time, not so much Octagon Control, however he had Reyes constantly fighting going backwards and I don't agree with the fact that they were using the old rules, as any normal fan can see, Reyes has I believe 7 KO's backing up, most recently Chris Weidman.

She's my favorite

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I have no idea why you are coming at me, however I may be wrong, but I am a man and I just noticed your comment, and I just hope that you aren't referring to me as a female, or thinking you are funny with a lame a$$ joke, you are probably that 50 year old who stays in on the weekend and watches Simpson reruns. I know much more than you about MMA and I am not bragging, but I have the luxury of being a life long friend of a #5 Ranked Male UFC Fighter, amongst 3 others.

I have stumbled upon 7 Official MMA Title Fights that went the distance, not all UFC, but I will say 4-2-1, as in the total cards per the 3 top MMA Organizations in the world. I did actually get 23, but the 7, all have a similar makeup, long tenured Title Holders who had defended the strap 4+ times. If you are a die hard, think of the most absurd Decisions in MMA Title Fights, and you can find the real cards. I am keeping it 💯, and if anyone wants to call me on it, if I can post a picture on here I will, rather not, but send you directly. 100%, The Judges Cards are, and think of what I mean, always based upon a 3 round Fight and what made me wonder is the term, Championship Rounds, and how much you hear Commentators say, fighter A, might have pulled it out in the Championship Rounds." I will say JBJ v. Gus 1, I scored it 10 times and I am still stuck with 49-46, or 48-47, UD, Gus. Please find it and look how Rounds 1 and 2 are typed in for the Champion on 2 of the 3 Judges cards, and the 3rd Judge is the no-name, and they face scrutiny because they are scoring 5, and with the challenger starting down 2, through 2, they Have to get a Sub, KO, and to win by decision, they have to skunk the defending Champion, for 8 Rounds. No Conspiracy Theory, when Chris Lee and Marcos Rosales' cards are typed Rd1 JBJ 10 Gus 9. Think about the worst decisions in Title Fights and you will get access to them. Hint, state doesn't follow new unified rules in which 2 or more possibly took place. If you want to see, them, signed by the Commission, fire a comment to me, because I don't believe that The MMA Promotion in the fights are aware, however I am led to believe via my research that good possibility that a Fighter from the State in which the Venue was, specific Fighters talk like morons, that they placed wagers on themselves. Thank you and I am not trying to stir the pot, I am one who believes in EQUALITY. ✌

Hey Joseph Roy, dummy, did you not see the broken link symbol in Dragonfly Jones comment? He's not talking about you because not everything is about you

I have no idea what you are referring to when you said a dragonfly jones video, and I don't why you are saying that I think everything is about me, I have not even been on here for a year, and I asked 1 question, and that was regarding the ranking system because I have tried to do it several times and it only allows 1 fighter, and I was made aware  that prior to even joining the site there's another person with my exact name that was on here, so if you are offended by something that you read, or and I honestly have no idea what Dragonfly Jones' significance is with me and why you said that I think everything is about me. I am not even close to one who toots his own horn, andIreally don't like to blame anyone for something, but if something said was just foolish or not senseful, my girlfriend is becoming a big MMA fan and if I am away for work she is probably writing things strictly to start an argument for no reason. Please respond to me so I know what you are talking about, I am100% honest that I have no idea. I apologize for anything that was said or done that may have caused a problem,but I am still learning about this site and she is probably making me look like a fool by saying things that are far from the truth. ✌