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10.16.2023 | 10:55 AM ET

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BRAVE CF 80
Bout   Info
Nkosi Ndebele   defeats   Jose Torres   via KO/TKO, Retirement   1:38 Round 3 of 5, 11:38 Total Bout Page
Jarrah Hussein Al-Silawi   defeats   Nenad Avramović   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gerard Burns   defeats   Hussain Maki   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:01 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jack Grant   defeats   Ahmad Labban   via Submission, Armbar   4:59 Round 3 of 3, 14:59 Total Bout Page
Dean Garnett   defeats   Izzeddine Al Derbani   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chad Griffiths   defeats   Abbas Khan   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   3:03 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa   defeats   Monika Kiran Ghag   via KO/TKO   0:29 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Mohamed Alsameea   defeats   Yahia Ashraf   via KO/TKO, Elbows   1:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Fabiola Nascimento   defeats   Jleana Valentino   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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2023.11.12 9:53 PM ET

bout announced

Jose Torres vs. Nkosi Ndebele II at 135 lbs (61.2 kg)
2023.11.12 9:53 PM ET

bout announced

Jarrah Hussein Al-Silawi vs. Nenad Avramović at 185 lbs (83.9 kg)
2023.11.22 11:08 AM ET

bout announced

Hussain Maki vs. Gerard Burns at 125 lbs (56.7 kg)
2023.11.22 11:08 AM ET

bout announced

Ahmad Labban vs. Jack Grant at 175 lbs (79.4 kg)
2023.11.22 11:09 AM ET

bout announced

Mahmoud Fawzy Sebie vs. Oscar Ownsworth at 165 lbs (74.8 kg)
2023.11.22 11:09 AM ET

bout announced

Izzeddine Al Derbani vs. Dean Garnett at 135 lbs (61.2 kg)
2023.11.22 11:09 AM ET

bout announced

Abbas Khan vs. Stefano Catacoli at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2023.11.22 11:09 AM ET

bout announced

Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa vs. Rewan Yasser at 135 lbs (61.2 kg)
2023.11.22 11:09 AM ET

bout announced

Fabiola Nascimento vs. Jleana Valentino at 115 lbs (52.2 kg)
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11.22.2023 | 7:51 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

Torres vs. Ndebele
Nkosi Ndebele, DEC
I’m assuming nobody picking Torres saw the first fight? Torres won one of the worst regional robberies of the year; his usually elite judo didn’t work and he was having an extremely hard time with the size discrepancy. IMO he lost the fight 49-46, it really wasn’t close at all yet he somehow got the nod (probably because brave loves him). I have always been very vocal about Torres’s talent; at 125 I truly think he’s one of the best in the world, at 135 he is still pretty good but not nearly at the same level. Maybe he learned from his mistakes & I saw Torres training at XC for this camp, but I can’t ignore how badly he struggled with the size in this fight. I would love Torres to put a stamp on this rematch but I think this is too tough of a matchup for him. He’s the better fighter 100% but this is one of those matchups where Torres size works against him

Al-Silawi vs. Avramović
Jarrah Hussein Al-Silawi, TKO, R2
Funny to see pfl released al-silawi. His falloff makes literally no sense to me. Jarrah in brave looked unstoppable; he essentially beat lazy king twice (first fight was a robbery), ko’ed naurdiev & Carlston Harris, and somehow picked up wins over Artem reznikov, scattizzi, and van suijdam. He looked great on challenger series but then it was all downhill from there. He barely beat the ghost of tibau and then got badly chinned in his last three. Losing to Umalatov and sy is whatever but letting renfro sleep him was a terrible terrible look. Idk if going off of PEDs hurt him (highly probable) but to go from one of the best middle eastern prospects to a chinlet is insane. He should dominate this guy but I have no idea what to think of jarrah anymore

Maki vs. Burns
Gerard Burns, DEC
Something tells me this Irish guy is a tin can but man that record of maki’s is ugly as ****

Labban vs. Grant
Jack Grant, SUB, R2
Good to see grant returning back to competition. I hope he hasn’t became washed in his time off but he is only 31 so maybe he has improved

Sebie vs. Ownsworth
Mahmoud Fawzy Sebie, SUB, R1
Sebie is ******* hilarious to me. He is a crazy athlete & looks elite for about 90 seconds. Then once he faces adversity he just dies. Ownsworth is on a crazy winstreak but has only fought cans. His two losses are not only to bad fighters, but they are also against grapplers; of which Sebie happens to be a pretty good one. He only has about 2 minutes to win this fight but I really think sebies superioer wrestling will allow him to get ownsworth down and get a sub before his cardio fails him

Al Derbani vs. Garnett
Dean Garnett, TKO, R2
I’m sure brave wants the Jordinian to win but I think Garnett is simply just better

Khan vs. Catacoli
Stefano Catacoli, DEC
I used to be decently high on khan but my god he looked awful his last fight. Then add to the fact he went to split with a 40 year old journeyman & I’m pretty sure he’s a fraud. Catacoli’s level of competition isn’t much better (probably worse tbh) but khan looked so awful last fight that I can’t pick him

De Sousa vs. Yasser
Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa, SUB, R1
SLDS is going to be terrifying as a pro. This girl has killed just about every wmma prospect from 135 to 145. Happy to see she will be fighting at 135 going forward because that will make it easier to get signed to the ufc. Call me crazy but I think she could beat multiple WBW in the ufc currently

Nascimento vs. Valentino
Fabiola Nascimento, SUB, R2
Decently tough debut for nascimento. Not that she will struggle but Valentino is a pretty good kickboxer. However I don’t think her grappling is good enough to beat nascimento; she was a very good amateur

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11.25.2023 | 9:55 PM ET

The debut of Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa, for the people who don't keep track of amateurs this is the only lady that has beaten a very solid WMMA fighter named Michelle Montague, Montague will be competing in the tournament next year in the PFL. She has also beat Cage Warriors standout Jasmine Favero who has a 3-0 pro record, Nina Kharinova who has a pro record of 4-0, Klaudia Syguła who has a 6-1 pro record, Antonina Kotlyarevskaya who has a pro 2-0 record in Octagon,and Cecilie Bolander who has a 3-0 pro record. Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa is probably one of the most hyped up WMMA prospects ever, the sky is the limit for this young lady and I wouldn't be shocked if shes on next years DWCS or Dana signs her after 3 fights, shes that good. Like Ayy said she could probably beat several of the UFC WMMA 135lbers right now, she is future champ material. 

* Edited at 11.25.2023, 10:14 PM ET *

2023.11.29 4:49 AM ET

bout status update

Khan vs. Catacoli Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2023.11.29 11:51 AM ET

bout announced

Abbas Khan vs. Chad Griffiths at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
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11.30.2023 | 1:30 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 16th with 3 others

@AyyLmaonnaise 
I watched Torres and Ndebele's first fight, and I actually had money on Ndebele and was pissed when he didn't get the nod. But I am picking Jose Torres this time around because I believe he will make the right adjustments to get the win this time. Just because a fighter did well the first fight does not mean they will win the second fight. Everyone thought Corey Anderson was going to easily beat Vadim Nemkov in their second fight because the first fight was going Anderson's way, but that did not happen, Nemkov made the right adjustments and won the second fight without doubt. I believe Torres has the experience and fight IQ to make the right adjustments the second time around. 
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12.01.2023 | 10:49 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

That’s very valid criticism but I think this is just a tougher fight for Torres than it is Ndebele. Nkosi has very good tdd and his height helps even more. Plus Torres is always going to have to work around that size disadvantage. I saw Torres has moved camps to XC so maybe he makes the right improvements but I think this is just an uphill battle for him 

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12.01.2023 | 8:31 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 16th with 3 others

@AyyLmaonnaise 
respect, should be an exciting match
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12.05.2023 | 3:31 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 41st with 5 others

De Sousa vs. Yasser
Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa, SUB, R1
uphill battle for Yasser

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12.11.2023 | 10:29 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 255 Points   |   128th Place

think Nkosi  won the first fight
He took rounds 1-2-4 my opinion
But secons round was very-close
Torres won 3rd and 5th

In fact, with a difference of one round, their second fight
can go according to any way. Where can Torres take 3 rounds, for example

I must add an important detail. Their first fight was in Colombia in Bogota, a city that is located high above sea level. And Torres, I remember exactly from his instagram, arrived in advance and underwent full acclimatization. Ndebele did not. And perhaps this was one of the factors why Nkosi has been so tired since the 3rd
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12.11.2023 | 10:38 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 255 Points   |   128th Place

@MWRSports 
I bet money on torres in their first fight, but that doesn’t stop me from saying that he didn’t win it
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12.11.2023 | 5:03 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 16th with 3 others

@Dmitriev 
It was a close fight, could have gone either way, I had it for Ndebele as well
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12.11.2023 | 5:21 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

I’m gonna need to rewatch the fight now lol. I remember it not being close but seems I am misremembering 

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12.12.2023 | 1:26 AM ET

Sabrina Laurentina de Sousa

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 41st with 5 others

Was so excited when I heard SLDS was going pro. Women's 135 is so bad she could get signed now and wouldn't look out of place. I'll say 3 fights max before she gets signed either to DWCS or right to the UFC. Wouldn't even be mad if Dana did what he did with Micky Gall, although SLDS doesn't need to fight CM Punk and Mike Jackson-quality fighters in her first couple fights. This girl could be ranked by the end of 2024 if the UFC plays their cards right.

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12.12.2023 | 12:59 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

SLDS has a new opponent 

6-2 Indian girl named Monika Kiran Ghag

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2023.12.13 5:36 AM ET

bout status update

Sebie vs. Ownsworth Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2023.12.13 5:36 AM ET

bout status update

De Sousa vs. Yasser Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2023.12.13 11:24 AM ET

bout announced

Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa vs. Monika Kiran Ghag at 135 lbs (61.2 kg)
2023.12.13 11:24 AM ET

bout announced

Mohamed Alsameea vs. Yahia Ashraf at 125 lbs (56.7 kg)
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12.13.2023 | 1:30 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

De Sousa vs. Ghag
Sabrina Laurentina De Sousa, SUB, R1
New opponent same goal

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2023.12.13 4:59 PM ET

event start time updated

From Friday, December 15 at 1:00pm ET to Friday, December 15 at 10:00am ET
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12.14.2023 | 1:06 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 41st with 5 others

I think Al Siwali is done lol hes always been super overatted, If this guy hes fighting knows how to even throw a good punch he could prolly knock him out. Might sprinkle on that +300 moneyline Siwali should never be -400 imo hes got no chin left
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12.14.2023 | 1:09 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 41st with 5 others

Torress is the only one to beat Albazi officially so I think hes very good, I know France got robbed against him but still. Torres should be able to make enough adjustments here but it will be very close, Idk if I wanna pay juice on Torres but his line is coming down now.
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12.14.2023 | 1:25 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 41st with 5 others

NVM this guy Avramovic has 0 knockouts and I dont know if I see him submitting Al Siwali, I guess they matches him up here with him for a reason cause they probably want to rebuild him back due to him already being known by most fans so I am sure they likely want to use him for future card headliners 
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12.14.2023 | 7:45 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

That’s like the naurdiev vs hadbi fight, just because one guy is clearly flawed doesn’t mean he’s going to lose. Brave clearly setting him up for a win

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12.14.2023 | 4:43 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 66th

Al-Silawi vs. Avramović
Jarrah Hussein Al-Silawi, TKO, R2
Nenad's record confuses me, 12-8 but on a 5 fight win streak? And before that he was on a 4 fight loss streak? And before that he was on a 5 fight win streak??????

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12.14.2023 | 5:04 PM ET

@AyyLmaonnaise 
bro how do u watch brave cf fights if its not on youtube? they take off their live events so theres no way to watch the first fight.
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12.14.2023 | 7:15 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 8th with 2 others

Just have to wait until they upload a replay. They have a way of watching fights on their site as well, but their site is almost unusable 

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