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WinningOne
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04.16.2011 | 3:35 AM ET

What happened to them. I don't really know if they helped strikers or grapplers more. Do you think they should be brought back?

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04.16.2011 | 3:45 AM ET

nope, they helped wrestlers. gave them more well... traction basically. meaning they dont slip on the mat. makes takedowns easier.

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Blackwork
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04.16.2011 | 9:39 AM ET


They also helped BJJ guys with leg locks.

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04.16.2011 | 10:24 AM ET

Does anyone recall shoes being the reason for a cut? 

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04.16.2011 | 11:27 AM ET

I don't remember a shoe ever causing a cut, but once Zoila Frausto threw a high hick and her toenail opened up a big cut on her opponent's face.  I think it might have been this fight:

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/strikeforce-challengers-4-zoila-warrior-princess-frausto-vs-elisha-knuckles-helsper

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04.16.2011 | 11:32 AM ET

I remember that... Finger nails have caused cuts too, but I don't recall shoes ever doing so.  But yeah, they did give wrestlers an advantage and BJJ guys too, but mainly wrestlers.

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04.16.2011 | 12:18 PM ET

I just ordered the first 4 IVC events, I wonder if I'll see any shoes.  I know I won't be seeing any gloves!

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04.16.2011 | 12:50 PM ET

not too many wrestlers down there, mostly bjj guys

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OldManGloom
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04.16.2011 | 1:00 PM ET

@Rascal, you're right about that, although Vitor wore shoes back in the day.  He's not in those tournaments although Dan Severn is in the first one, so I guess that answers my question.

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WinningOne
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04.16.2011 | 3:06 PM ET

Okay, I haven't been into MMA that long. But checking out the older fights I was curious. Thanks.

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04.16.2011 | 4:11 PM ET

@WinningOne. See Pete Willams vs Coleman. Shoe meets face.

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WinningOne
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04.16.2011 | 6:25 PM ET

Just saw that one. The reason I made this tread. :) 

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04.16.2011 | 6:43 PM ET


They've been worn in recent fights (08-09), IIRC. Think Lawal wore them before Strikeforce, although that was in Japan. Maybe against Kerr too, which was also probably a non-Unified Rules fight.

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04.16.2011 | 6:47 PM ET

Yup Lawal wore shoes against Mark Kerr:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6a4q-DFPXg

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04.16.2011 | 6:54 PM ET

I know the UFC banned the use of shoes... any org that uses the unified rules do not allow shoes anymore for safety reasons (kicks/etc). 

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