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If Jon Jones really moved up to HW.
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08.09.2012 | 3:49 PM ET
I'd also like to see him fight Alexander Gustafsson. I think Alex is coming of age in an MMA sense and might give Jon a good fight, even if I can't really see him beating him.
So, seeing as Jon is fast running out of credible, viable contenders at LHW, I assume he will be moving up in about a year's time. And when he does, whom do you think he should be looking at initially?
I think he should not fight Junior, Cain, Alistar or Shane right off the bat.
I am thinking his perfect first fight at HW would be Frank Mir. Frank is more than competitive on his feet and on the ground.
And after that, Roy Nelson, Matt Mitrione, Brandan Schaub and Stefan Struve would make for interesting fights. I think Jon Jones would beat all of them. And after them, bring on the Big Boys!
Any thoughts? Discuss.
* Edited at 08.09.2012, 4:13 PM ET *
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08.09.2012 | 9:03 PM ET
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08.09.2012 | 9:31 PM ET
His success in moving up will depend heavily how well he gains weight and if it is muscle. If his body accepts the extra muscle, he should incur few problems. I can easily see him fighting at a lean 230-235. But I wouldn't want him to do it via the steroid route as I highly suspect Overeem did. He should go gradually, under the supervised program of someone who knows how these things are done.
And if he can successfully navigate those tricky paths, the next set of issues is deciding on a sensible succession of HW opponents. Maybe I was too ambitious in suggesting Mir as his Maiden Voyage of Discovery in HW.
Maybe he might begin with more circumspection and deliberate care. Perhaps Roy Nelson or Matt Mitrione might make a little more sense.
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08.09.2012 | 10:43 PM ET
Jones at heavyweight will be embarrassing for him :)
He is a freak of nature at 205
he is no better than average at heavyweight.
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08.09.2012 | 11:03 PM ET
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08.10.2012 | 3:03 AM ET
If it was done gradually, with natural methods and not using steroids, their body types could sustain maybe an increase of 30 lbs. of muscle over what they currently weigh in at. Silva could go to 215, and Jones to 235.
But I have absolutely no objective evidence to support this personal opinion. Just going by how they look now.
* Edited at 08.10.2012, 3:04 AM ET *
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08.10.2012 | 5:29 AM ET
Jon Jones is definitely talented enough to compete against the HWs of the UFC, but having much in common with Anderson Silva, the question is, if he is dominating so well in his weight class, why move up in weight, and run the risk of tarnishing his legacy?
We would all love to see the great fighters really challenge themselves, and for us getting to see Superfights would be a dream come true. Jose Aldo fighting the top LWs like Frankie Edgar, Ben Henderson, Gray Maynard, or quite possibly a fight with BJ Penn. GSP fighting the top MWs like Chael Sonnen, Tim Boestch, Michael Bisping, or a the Superfight many have wanted for years Anderson Silva. Anderson fighting top LHWs like Shogun, Rashad Evans, Rampage, or Jon Jones. Jon Jones fighting top HWs like Frank Mir, Shane Carwin, Allistair Overeem, Cain Velasquez, or JDS. Just because it seems that these fighters have cleaned house in their respective divisions, and have little to no viable opponents left, doesn't make it so. Many times over, just as it seems that there's noone left, someone comes along, or even more often so, 5 somebodys come along.
For Jones right now, it seems like all that's left is Henderson and Gustafsson, but we can't forget about possible rematches with Lyoto Machida, Shogun, and then there's still Glover Texeira. A lot can happen in a year's time. The next big challenge at 205 could be available and marketable for Jones, or there could be 5 great contenders that come along in the next 12 months.
The biggest factor of all coming into this thought is................would Jones even consider or want to fight at HW?
If Jones does choose to fight at HW, and that's a big if, like at LHW, I would hope that Dana White would want to bring Jones along at HW kind of slowly. I think that his first opponent should be someone like Brendan Schaub, Stefan Struve, or Cheick Kongo. If he fares well against them ,the give him a big HW like Mark Hunt or Roy Nelson. Jones wins that one in convincing fashion, then a top 5 HW like Frank Mir, Cain, or Alistair Overeem, and of course after than give Jones a shot at the HW title, but you're talking about a lot of ifs and scenarios that I just don't think are going to happen.
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08.10.2012 | 2:25 PM ET
This post is just so good, I think I will make a thread out of it. You bring up so many excellent arguing points that responding in one post just isn't enough. Your post deserves to be dissected and discussed. It will make for a very interesting and valid discussion.
So, thank you, thank you, thank you, jay. Where you been? I haven't seen you before. Hope I see you lots more after this!
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08.10.2012 | 2:27 PM ET
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10.01.2012 | 9:31 AM ET
UFC just wants to put cards together and screw what the results will be, they just want to make as many paychecks as possible. Can't blame them for doing so. That's why I don't see many super fights happening. One big earner has to then loose. Sure they might have one big match up once per year. This year it was supposed to be Edgar vs Aldo. That was only because Edgar was stripped of his title so they offered another title for him with Aldo. GSP won't get a fight with Silva unless Condit beats him at WW. What we can get excited for is DC is a very light HW. He could fight at 205 in the near future and Evans could fight at 185. These two fighters pose a huge threat for Jones and Silva. Also after seeing Jones almost getting submitted by Belfort in UFC 152, I see Weidman coming up to 205 to challenge Jones.
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10.01.2012 | 10:16 AM ET
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10.01.2012 | 11:01 AM ET
10.01.2012 | 11:16 AM ET
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10.01.2012 | 11:43 AM ET
his guard is more dangerous than Belfort's and he is difficult to KO.
in my mind either Werdum submits him or we have a somewhat boring decision with jones moving a lot.
10.01.2012 | 12:18 PM ET
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