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WHO HAS THE BEST BJJ IN ALL OF MMA?
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02.12.2012 | 6:04 PM ET
"Tap ill snap!!" - Rousimar Palhares
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02.12.2012 | 6:16 PM ET
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I also have a a bunch of others rankings relevant to BJJ that people were kind enough to have filled out, so you might see what people are thinking by looking at those.
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02.12.2012 | 6:20 PM ET
"Tap ill snap!!" - Rousimar Palhares
02.12.2012 | 6:22 PM ET
"Fedor via Armbar"
02.12.2012 | 6:56 PM ET
However, he doesn't really have the wrestling or striking to set that up, so if you look at who is the best BJJ player in mma, I wouldn't say him. A year ago I would have said Maia, without a doubt, but he has stopped pulling guard, and has been looking worse and worse. Jacare would have been another good choice, but it seems he's lost his will. He isn't schooling people on the ground anymore.
So now, I would say Werdum, or Palhares. Palhares is still man enough to pull guard, and it works. He's super aggressive and it always works out for him. Werdum is getting his striking up there so he will actually be able to take the fight to the ground, but there is no time, ever, when you want to follow him to the ground.
All time, I'd still say Nogueira. He basically brought guard playing into MMA at the highest level, revolutionizing grappling into the sport. He had some of the best sweeps, the best triangle, and a GREAT top game as well (armbars/anacondas/guillotines), and more heart and determination than anyone else in order to get the fight to the floor.
The reason I don't mention Mir among the other greats is because he is all offensive. Yes he submitted Nogueira, and he has a few other big submissions, but he isn't someone who you have to avoid the grappling with. Lesnar beat him on the floor, PDP beat him on the floor, and Freeman beat him on the floor. He wilts under pressure and defensively, isn't too great. He, for his life, could not get out of Lesnar's headlock, or get back his full guard. He has a great submission game, but as far as sweeps, keeping guard, and passing goes, I don't rank him amongst the top.
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02.12.2012 | 7:24 PM ET
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02.12.2012 | 7:53 PM ET
"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"
02.12.2012 | 8:09 PM ET
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02.12.2012 | 8:16 PM ET
Mir and Nog are out there but are not as active or agressive. They look for openings instead of working for them all the time. Different attitude I think. Hard to compare.
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02.12.2012 | 8:19 PM ET
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
02.12.2012 | 8:46 PM ET
"Keep it punk rock!!!!"
02.12.2012 | 9:06 PM ET
"I don't want to have to do this living. I just walk around. I want to be swept off my feet, you know? I want my children to have magical powers. I am prepared for amazing things to happen. I can handle it."
02.12.2012 | 9:08 PM ET
"I am not impressed by your performaaance" - GSP.
02.12.2012 | 9:14 PM ET
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02.12.2012 | 9:42 PM ET
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02.12.2012 | 10:07 PM ET
Best BJJ adapted for MMA? That's another whole topic as well, offensively I gotta give it to Shinya Aoki like @zarog said but defensively, no way is it Benson Henderson. Benson uses his power and his wrestling to get out of subs, not outstanding jiu-jitsu. I would say the best defensively would be Nick Diaz, I've never seen a better guard in my life (yes, that includes Big Nog).
Overall? A lot of choices there, but one that gets overlooked a lot is Anderson Silva. Ignoring those flying scissor hooks and Daiju Takase (idk what he put him in), he's an awesome grappler. And he uses it well for MMA, the only fighters that go in to wrestle Anderson, he ends up submitting them from his back. That's gotta mean something.
Another name I'd throw in is Frank Mir, for obvious reasons.
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02.12.2012 | 10:35 PM ET
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02.12.2012 | 11:03 PM ET
I will toss my hat in and say Palhares....even if it's just leg locking, that's no small feat to do.
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02.12.2012 | 11:04 PM ET
"Albert Fish... I mean that guy was a real jerk!"
02.13.2012 | 12:09 AM ET
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02.13.2012 | 12:11 AM ET