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02.05.2011 | 7:31 PM ET
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02.05.2011 | 8:02 PM ET
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02.05.2011 | 8:36 PM ET
"im an OT (ORIGINAL TAPOLOGIST), I used to write for cagepages.com. NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT LEFT HAND SHOT"
02.05.2011 | 8:38 PM ET
"im an OT (ORIGINAL TAPOLOGIST), I used to write for cagepages.com. NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT LEFT HAND SHOT"
02.05.2011 | 9:30 PM ET
Regardless of who you think will win the fight (which is a fight we will get, assuming GSP will beat Shields), Anderson is higher ranked! He is 13-0 in the UFC, with (arguably) higher quality wins than St. Pierre. This should not be disputed. St. Pierre has been ko'd and armbarred during Silva's long reign at the top.
(Just to be clear, I am not attacking you here Jersey, I am simply refuting you're argument, I do not believe GSP deserves to be ranked higher than Silva, and winstreak alone should prove that)
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02.06.2011 | 6:50 AM ET
Regardless, as long as GSP beats Shields we'll finally have the biggest MMA fight in history (at least I think so) and we'll have a definitive #1 pound-for-pound champion. Of course if GSP loses to Shields we'll still have a definitive pound-for-pound champ.
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02.06.2011 | 6:55 AM ET
and @conman, I agree with your agreement of me.
That fight last night gave me a lot of confidence in a fight vs. GSP, he would get taken down at will I think, but he can hit that off switch at any moment, and put GSP on the floor.
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02.06.2011 | 7:30 AM ET
02.06.2011 | 7:36 AM ET
they are both incredible and the only point in debating which guy is "better" is just to have some fun. personally i still have GSP at #1. i do think he has been defeating tougher opposition, and he has looked completely invincible even though he hasn't finished fights.
anderson was half a round away from losing his title after having been dominated against sonnen. there has been nothing like that for GSP - nobody has come close recently.
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02.06.2011 | 7:38 AM ET
valid points, but i got gsp by a slim margin still... because, its best p4p now, not career....and while gsp has lost, he came back and DESTROYED those 2 fighters. silva was fortunate that sonnen has the submission defense of a mannequin...or he loses that fight, and ima go out on a limb and say gsp is just as good a wrestler (if not better) and has great sub defense and 1000x better stand up.....one man's opinion, and i may be wrong....but we're splitn hairs here anywayz...these 2 are tops in world, and by a huge margin over number 3.
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02.06.2011 | 8:02 AM ET
I am not stupid, I realize wrestling is Anderson's worst asset and is GSP's best, but Anderson was injured in that Sonnen fight, and he wanted that sub, he was basically pulling guard every time Sonnen even attempted a td.
whoever is the "better fighter", shouldn't really matter in this ranking, because it's all speculation. We will see this fight soon, and the winner will obviously be number one, but until then, I think we should look at win streaks, Anderson is undefeated in the ufc, which you can't say about GSP, and although he has looked vulnerable, he has also won every fight.
This is a razor close argument, and I guess putting GSP as number one can be justified, but I disagree with it, personally, just because Anderson is on a huge streak, and he finishes fights, which are really the only two arguments not based on speculation.
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02.06.2011 | 9:06 AM ET
But if streaks are what you want to look at, fine. GSP has won 30 rounds in a row. Silva has won ... 2. GSP has faced top ten pound-for-pound competition at least twice in the last three years and will face it again against Shields. Anderson Silva hasn't found a pound-for-pound contender since winning the title from Franklin. Finally, and this is my favorite, number of fights since refusing to engage an opponent: Silva - 2 | GSP - Never.
Silva is like a child with a machine gun. Sure, he can kill you but who knows if he's going to pull the trigger.
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02.06.2011 | 9:07 AM ET
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02.06.2011 | 9:12 AM ET
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02.06.2011 | 9:22 AM ET
Its partially and admitted bias of being both not a fan of anderson's personality and being canadian, but i have gsp as slightly edging out silva due to being better everywhere than everyone he fights.
Last night was an awesome finish and as much as i dislike anderson im in awe of him.
The difference is gsp engages even if it is just top control waiting for an opening, he is engaging. Anderson, if no one engages him he dances and waits.
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02.06.2011 | 9:23 AM ET
But also these two being so close it could go either way for many reasons and they are unquestionably the number 1 and 2 period.
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02.06.2011 | 4:14 PM ET
And who won the rounds stat is kind of dumb, and so is the who is more aggressive, no offense. Anderson has won his last 13 fights, GSP got knocked out 8 fights ago.
And as far as this whole GSP is fighting better competition, let's compare their last 8 opponents.
Silva W1 Belfort, vs. GSP w5 Koscheck, close fight as far as competition goes, but Anderson ko'd Belfort in the first, which I think gives him the edge here.
Silva w5 Sonnen vs GSP w5 Hardy, this is a joke, Sonnen is much tougher competition.
Silva w5 Maia, GSP w5 Alves, this is a tough one to call, but I think Maia's world class bjj makes him the tougher opponent here.
Silva w1 Griffin vs GSP w4 BJ, GSP wins this one.
Silva w5 Leites vs GSP w5 Fitch, Fitch is better
Silva w3 Cote vs GSP w2 Serra, tough one to call, but I give the advantage to Cote, but I'm guessing you would give it to Serra, so I won't count it.
Silva w1 Irvin vs GSP w2 Hughes, Hughes is better
Silva w2 Hendo vs GSP w3 Kos, Hendo is better competition. Then in their fights before that GSP got ko'd, and Anderson destroyed Franklin.
So what I'm trying to get at here is that there isn't as big of a gap in competition as people are saying, there are a few cans in there for both of them, but Anderson is winning all of them, and he was winning fights before this too, not getting ko'd by guys like Serra. (I'm not picking a fight here and I'm not mad, just stating my case, I want to hear yours too)
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02.06.2011 | 6:10 PM ET
I think Anderson is still at the top.
I honestly belive both men have been fighting less then spectacular competition.
Until GSP and him fight, or he get's beaten by Okami.. then he deserves the top spot.
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02.06.2011 | 7:39 PM ET
He's not though
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02.06.2011 | 8:10 PM ET
@Olexei You bring up the Chael fight like we all try to forget it, but you may remember Anderson won. We all know he got pounded for almost five rounds but he won. He was injured and clearly wanted to submit Chael. And he did, further showing his dominance.
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02.06.2011 | 8:16 PM ET
So again, if that's the fight people wanna point to to show that Anderson is unworthy of being the pound-for-pound champ, well that's their choice.
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