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03.09.2023 | 1:30 PM ET

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PFL 4
Bout   Info
Jesus Pinedo   defeats   Brendan Loughnane   via KO/TKO, Knee to the Head to Hammerfists   1:34 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Movlid Khaybulaev   defeats   Tyler Diamond   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:23 Round 2 of 3, 9:23 Total Bout Page
Marthin Hamlet   defeats   Sam Kei   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bubba Jenkins   defeats   Sung Bin Jo   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:25 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Josh Silveira   defeats   Delan Monte   via KO/TKO, Knee Injury   1:30 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Gabriel Alves Braga   defeats   Marlon Moraes   via KO/TKO, Straight Right to Hammerfists   3:02 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Ty Flores   defeats   Dan Spohn   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chris Wade   defeats   Ryoji Kudo   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Impa Kasanganay   defeats   Tim Caron   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   3:52 Round 2 of 3, 8:52 Total Bout Page
Andrew Sanchez   defeats   Taylor Johnson   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Abby Montes   defeats   Brandy Hester   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   3:06 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Alexei Pergande   defeats   Akeem Bashir   via Submission, D'arce Choke   3:40 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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2023.04.26 11:34 AM ET

bout announced

Chris Wade vs. Ryoji Kudo at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
2023.04.26 11:34 AM ET

bout announced

Alejandro Flores vs. Marlon Moraes at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
2023.04.26 11:35 AM ET

bout announced

Krzysztof Jotko vs. Ty Flores at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2023.04.26 11:35 AM ET

bout announced

Bubba Jenkins vs. Sung Bin Jo at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
2023.04.26 11:36 AM ET

bout announced

Josh Silveira vs. Delan Monte at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2023.04.26 11:36 AM ET

bout announced

Marthin Hamlet vs. Sam Kei at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2023.04.26 11:37 AM ET

bout announced

Movlid Khaybulaev vs. Daniel Torres at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
2023.04.26 11:38 AM ET

bout announced

Thiago Santos vs. Mohammad Fakhreddine at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2023.04.26 11:38 AM ET

bout announced

Rob Wilkinson vs. Will Fleury at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2023.04.26 11:38 AM ET

bout announced

Brendan Loughnane vs. Jesus Pinedo at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
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04.26.2023 | 4:30 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 695 Points   |   Tied for 29th with 7 others

Loughnane vs. Pinedo
Brendan Loughnane, TKO, R3
I really wish this was Braga vs brendan but pfl is gonna pfl. That being said Pinedo had a really good fight with Braga, I expect this to be the same. However brendan is a level above pinedo

Wilkinson vs. Fleury
Rob Wilkinson, TKO, R2
I’ve had my doubts about Wilkinson but he has improved a ton. I don’t see anyone stopping him for a while

Hamlet vs. Kei
Marthin Hamlet, SUB, R1
I think hamlet is bad, but this is an easy fight for him. Kei can’t grapple & isn’t good to begin with. This is gonna be a repeat of marthins last fight

Khaybulaev vs. Torres
Movlid Khaybulaev, DEC
Total mismatch. I was very dissapointed with torres debut, now he’s going from a very mediocre fighter to the best in the divison. I expect a very dull and dominant movlid wrestling showcase

Santos vs. Fakhreddine
Thiago Santos, TKO, R1
I’m pretty sure in his pre fight hype, fahkreddine literally said he’s fighting for money over belts, so that tells you a lot off of the bat. Anyone who’s seen his brave fights knows he’s awful. Chinny, super slow, bad cardio, bad iq, can’t grapple, etc. he’s also pushing 40 so there’s that too. Santos is crazy washed, but he’s at least being somewhat competitve against ranked ufc guys (although rob mauled him). I hope santos can get a ko; I cannot bear to watch him win another boring sparring match

Wade vs. Kudo
Chris Wade, DEC
So my suspicion was correct, kudo is the sacrificial lamb for this season of pfl. Wade sold hard against bubba & I’m honestly not sure what his motivation is at this point. I know he’s frustrated with pfl & has came up short like 3 times now. That being said he’s just a better fighter than kudo. Kudo has had some nice performances, but we saw how he fares against a wrestler when he fought bubba. I also think Wade is a better striker than bubba too

Flores vs. Moraes
Marlon Moraes, TKO, R1
I hate this fight. I know I really shouldn’t be picking Marlon at all, but I think he can win this? Flores has a solid record and solid skills, but when you really watch his fights he’s really not that impressive. He doesn’t move his head at all and will often step his foot off the gas. He’s also not a power puncher, which is beneficial for Marlon. Marlon is super washed at this point. He is slow, chin is beyond glass st this point, he doesn’t have cardio anymore. I mean, he’s still got some skills but is a shell of himself. I feel like Marlon could find the kill shot here but pretty unlikely. However, that losing streak has gotta snap at some point… right?

Jotko vs. Flores
Krzysztof Jotko, DEC
Mid off. Two cans going at it. Jotko should be better but he sold hard last fight. Fleury at least has some skills & was clearly juiced to the gills in that fight. Flores was not impressive against monte at all

Jenkins vs. Jo
Bubba Jenkins, DEC
This is such a weird one. Jo doesn’t even fight first week and now he gets the guy who just beat Wade? Jo looks really bad against anyone who’s not a regional fighter. He fights very timid & can’t wrestle as we saw against diamond. Should be easy for bubba & he might even get a finish

Silveira vs. Monte
Josh Silveira, TKO, R1
Monte is embarrassingly bad. They gave him an easy win and he still fumbled it. Silvera is not a great athlete but he is definitely a solid fighter with a well rounded skillset. This should be an easy 6 for him

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04.26.2023 | 5:39 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 555 Points   |   Tied for 540th

Loughnane vs. Pinedo
Brendan Loughnane, DEC
Brendan bullied poor Marloon last time that was bad he should have let him win so Marloon can show his family he has still got the warrior flame... So Brendan bought some A class penthouse apartment in Manchester where he is committing sins with peoples wifes

Wilkinson vs. Fleury
Will Fleury, DEC
Wilkinson is on a roll but if he cant finish an aging injury fatigued Santos I dunno, and maybe Fleury knows Jotko won that last one so he trained hard for this

Hamlet vs. Kei
Marthin Hamlet, SUB, R1
Hamlet looks pretty motivated this season

Khaybulaev vs. Torres
Movlid Khaybulaev, DEC
Movlid should almost be at bantam, but that shows you how tough he is... 20-0-1

Santos vs. Fakhreddine
Thiago Santos, TKO, R2
Santos is a bit worn down with injuries etc but he made some good pay and Fakhreddine's last performance wasnt too great

Wade vs. Kudo
Ryoji Kudo, TKO, R1
Damn Kudo will be 1-4 if he loses here :( Just k.o him

Flores vs. Moraes
Marlon Moraes, DEC
Marloon will WIN, it is sanctified by GOD

Jotko vs. Flores
Krzysztof Jotko, DEC
Jotko got robbed last time but his fights can usually be close thats just how it is... He should win, but Flores with that elevation training might change pick we'll see weigh ins

Jenkins vs. Jo
Bubba Jenkins, DEC
So Bubba and Wade are 1-1? Jo hasnt been too active but I used to watch his coach who was nuts Dong Hyun Kim

Silveira vs. Monte
Josh Silveira, DEC
Silveira is a good prospect at a mature age he might make the finals this time








* Edited at 04.26.2023, 5:44 PM ET *

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04.26.2023 | 6:08 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 1070th

Watching Will Fleury as a middleweight in Brave just a year ago, then seeing him against Jotko is crazy. Steroids work freakin fast. He must have max dosed the past year

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04.28.2023 | 9:32 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 645 Points   |   Tied for 179th

Flores vs. Moraes
Marlon Moraes, TKO, R1
I can hope 1 last time.

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04.28.2023 | 10:30 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 321st

Loughnane vs. Pinedo
Brendan Loughnane, TKO, R3
setup fight

Wilkinson vs. Fleury
Rob Wilkinson, TKO, R2
wills simply not good enough to win. hes gonna have to get lucky like last time

Hamlet vs. Kei
Marthin Hamlet, TKO, R1
viking smash

Khaybulaev vs. Torres
Movlid Khaybulaev, DEC
elite russian vs solid european fighter. should be a clean dec. unless torres can catch movlid with some hooks

Santos vs. Fakhreddine
Thiago Santos, TKO, R1
do or die

Wade vs. Kudo
Ryoji Kudo, DEC
50-50 fight. ill go with kudo because i have a feeling wade is on the decline. i dont like how east bubba handled him

Flores vs. Moraes
Alejandro Flores, DEC
point fighter vs extermely chinny fighter. this is gonna be good

Jotko vs. Flores
Krzysztof Jotko, DEC
euro style on his ass

Jenkins vs. Jo
Bubba Jenkins, DEC
ive only seen 1 fight of sung bin jo(ufc fight). and i feel like he had the ufc jitters. but if thats how he usually fights then bubba is gonna win. you need to fight bubba and put him in a bad spot. not be easy to take down and always on the back foot

Silveira vs. Monte
Josh Silveira, SUB, R2
should win fairly easy

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04.28.2023 | 9:31 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 215 Points   |   Tied for 1015th

We need PFL back on Friday's. No events today
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04.30.2023 | 7:13 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 445 Points   |   Tied for 855th

Loughnane vs. Pinedo
Brendan Loughnane, TKO, R3
Loughnane just a step above everyone in this division, except maybe Movlid...

Wilkinson vs. Fleury
Rob Wilkinson, TKO, R1
Fleury is nowhere near the striking threat that Santos was so I expect Wilkinson to revert back to his striking game. Fleury was getting countered often by Jotko, but he didn't have the power to KO him. Wilkinson does and will.

Hamlet vs. Kei
Marthin Hamlet, SUB, R2
Kei actually has decent power in his punches, unfortunately he can't wrestle at all, so expect Hamlet to take this to the ground and get another submission to finish in the top 2 along with Silveira. Kei to be cut after this with an PFL record of 0-3.

Khaybulaev vs. Torres
Movlid Khaybulaev, DEC
Another 15 minutes of wrestling by Movlid to win this one in a snooze fest.

Santos vs. Fakhreddine
Thiago Santos, TKO, R1
Clearly a setup fight for Santos to get a first round finish so he can qualify for the playoffs. Everyone knows the way you beat Santos is to take him down where he can't use his power striking, but Fakhreddine clearly not good enough to do that.

Wade vs. Kudo
Ryoji Kudo, TKO, R3
Need to pick an upset somewhere on the card and I think this could be it. Kudo showed last year he has 1 punch KO power, which I think he will need here. Wade to wrestle all day, but Kudo to pull out something in the third round after being two rounds down...

Flores vs. Moraes
Marlon Moraes, TKO, R2
Would just be nice to see Moraes get another win before he has to retire for good. He doesn't deserve to go out on such a losing skid.

Jotko vs. Flores
Krzysztof Jotko, DEC
Death, taxes, and Jotko going to the judges. He'll get the win, but won't be enough to qualify for the playoffs.

Jenkins vs. Jo
Bubba Jenkins, DEC
Jenkins with another solid wrestling performance to pick up the win.

Silveira vs. Monte
Josh Silveira, SUB, R2
Last years two losing semi finalists up against each other. Monte will come out swinging like he always does, but if he can't get the early knock out then Silveira will be all over him. Watch him get the second round finish and then see who is quicker between him and Hamlet to finish first in the standings. Final four to be Silveira, Hamlet, Wilkinson and Santos.

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05.02.2023 | 3:17 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 445 Points   |   Tied for 855th

Rumour has it a few of these fighters failed their drug tests at the first fight and are about to be suspended. Watch this space 👀
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05.02.2023 | 4:58 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 91st

Flores vs. Moraes
Alejandro Flores, TKO, R2
Shocking how Moraes went from almost winning the crown against Cejudo, to not being able to take any sort of punch from whoever. What a brutal fall from grace. He had a good career overal, and should aknowledge that his body can't endure the damage anymore...

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05.02.2023 | 9:52 AM ET

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Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 321st

yea a couple of these fighters looked a little bit bigger than usual


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05.02.2023 | 11:11 AM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 1070th

Fleury & Kei looked abnormally jacked to me

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05.02.2023 | 8:22 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 445 Points   |   Tied for 855th

Yeah will be interesting to see who it is and how many. I reckon it’s a good thing though because it will show PFL is taking PEDs seriously and you can’t just come in, juice up and win. 
I doubt Kei was one of them, he was fighting at heavyweight last year so he has had to drop weight. 
But may just be rumours anyway and may have no substance. Time will tell…
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05.02.2023 | 10:41 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 1070th

Fleury absolutely used. Look at his fight at middle weight before PFL. He’s weak as hell man

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05.06.2023 | 7:10 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 1030th

There's solid rumors from a fighter's camp that Santos and 4 other guys prom the April 1st card tested positive for PEDs. I suspect Fleury and Hamlet to be among them. This card will inevitably be shuffled
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05.06.2023 | 8:57 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 445 Points   |   Tied for 855th

@Mk99 wow 5 in total! I wonder if it’s all light heavyweights or some featherweights too. 22 fighters from that card so almost a quarter of them tested positive! 
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05.07.2023 | 1:51 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 1030th

@JimJamSlam  yeah it's crazy. I'm not really sure if they're all LHWs but I'm sure that Santos is one of them
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05.07.2023 | 4:19 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 1070th

Lol I say just let them fight. They’ve already won so what would PFL do? Reverse the losing opponents’ decision record to have them win? Add & subtract points for different fighters? It’s all messed up already, this is something to test BEFORE the events start

* Edited at 05.07.2023, 4:19 PM ET *

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05.07.2023 | 7:18 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 445 Points   |   Tied for 855th

@Kniferusty they do test them before the event. Well day of the fight anyway (or maybe weigh in day), so obviously takes time to get results back. 
If Santos was one of them then he couldn't even beat Wilkinson with the roids. Time for him to give it up for good I think... 
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05.08.2023 | 4:33 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 215 Points   |   Tied for 1015th

Wilkinson vs. Fleury
Rob Wilkinson, TKO, R1
Wilkinson should be back in the UFC

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05.09.2023 | 4:39 PM ET

Alleged failed drug users

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 1070th

Thiago Santos
Bruno Cappelozza
Krzysztof Jotko 
Rizvan Kuniev 

I can’t verify 💯 but that’s what I saw

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