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11.22.2022 | 2:20 PM ET

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UFC 286
  • Saturday 03.18.2023 at 12:30 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: O2 Arena
  • Location: London, England
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Michael Bisping, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Daniel Cormier
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $8,580,000
  • Attendance: 17,588
  • MMA Bouts: 15
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Bout   Info
Leon Edwards   defeats   Kamaru Usman   via Decision, Majority   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Justin Gaethje   defeats   Rafael Fiziev   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gunnar Nelson   defeats   Bryan Barberena   via Submission, Armbar   4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jennifer Maia   defeats   Casey O'Neill   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marvin Vettori   defeats   Roman Dolidze   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jack Shore   defeats   Makwan Amirkhani   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:27 Round 2 of 3, 9:27 Total Bout Page
Chris Duncan   defeats   Omar Morales   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Yanal Ashmouz   defeats   Sam Patterson   via KO/TKO, Counter Left to Ground Strikes   1:15 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Muhammad Mokaev   defeats   Jafel Filho   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:32 Round 3 of 3, 14:32 Total Bout Page
Lerone Murphy   defeats   Gabriel Santos   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Christian Leroy Duncan   defeats   Duško Todorović   via KO/TKO, Knee Injury   1:52 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jake Hadley   defeats   Malcolm Gordon   via KO/TKO, Hook to the Body and Ground Strikes   1:01 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Joanne Wood   defeats   Luana Carolina   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jai Herbert   vs.   Ľudovít Klein   Ends in a Draw, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Veronica Hardy   defeats   Juliana Miller   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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gliese58i
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03.17.2023 | 3:21 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 595 Points   |   Tied for 1666th

Jack Shore looked like **** on the scale, very high bodyfat %, I wonder if he's injured. He's never had the greek statue physique but I don't recall it being this bad before. He weighs in early on just before Lerone Murphy does. They're both fighting at FW but the contrast couldn't be greater. Shore looks like a couch potato fan that snuck in and somehow bluffed himself onto the scale while Murphy is carved from granite.

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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03.17.2023 | 3:26 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 2694th

@ayy I'm lol hard

you and tartara used to beef hard af on here 
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03.17.2023 | 3:32 PM ET

"Don't let him bully you son"

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 2 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 1870th

He's bullying you son
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03.17.2023 | 3:43 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 1426th

@jonie one sided. Dude had it out for me

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03.17.2023 | 4:08 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 607th

LOL Colby made weight for alternate ***** ducking everyone :>!

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03.17.2023 | 4:10 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 15 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 3650th

Sir, we use English on this forum
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03.17.2023 | 4:20 PM ET

@gliese

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

Id be lying if I said I didn't have a similar reaction at first. However, Shore just doesn't have that kind of physique and this is the first time we're seeing him weigh in at 145. 

He didn't have a crazy physique even at 135. Some guys just look like their built like a bag of milk. Doesnt mean they're injured or can't fight. 


gliese58i
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03.17.2023 | 4:48 PM ET

@foppa420

Predictions: 9 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 595 Points   |   Tied for 1666th

You're right it doesn't mean that they're injured. It also doesn't stop me from wondering if he's dealing with an injury. You're supposed to be cut at that weight class. It's different once you get to the heaviest weight classes where power and sheer weight counts for more and the technical proficiency is at its lowest amongst the weight classes.

If all he gained moving up is that he drops less body fat during his cut to make the weight that's not good, you're giving opponents a potential 10 lbs of lean muscle tissue on you as well as increased height and reach averages.
I'm not saying Amirkhani will expose any of that but in general, fighters put their health on the line everytime they fight. Does Jack Shore not care?

* Edited at 03.17.2023, 4:54 PM ET *

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foppa420
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03.17.2023 | 5:04 PM ET

@gliese

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

Respectfully, trying to quantify aspects of any athletes body composition just by looking at them is probably not smart. If you're just looking at a guy and guessing how much fat v muscle he is, you're all but certainly going to be wrong.

Again, Shore never looked cut at 135lbs. I wasn't expecting him to suddenly have abs at 145.

foppa420
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03.17.2023 | 5:05 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

Oh man I'm deep down the Gabriel Santos rabbit hole. This guy is even better than I thought. 
gliese58i
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03.17.2023 | 5:39 PM ET

@foppa420

Predictions: 9 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 595 Points   |   Tied for 1666th

That's a strange sentiment, surely you can distinguish a cut physique from a blubbery one? Yes fat can disguise the amount of lean muscle tissue beneath it but carrying much visible fat at all is not the norm at featherweight. Again like I said, go and watch the weigh in for Shore and then Murphy that weighs in right after him to get a night/day contrast.

If it's not possible to size people up then presumably we can't tell if they're tired during a fight either from small visible cues. I would argue in both instances it is quite possible and in your interest if you're betting to do so.

Like I said I don't think it will matter for Shore in this particular fight but it's a negative variable worth to make a note of if you're going to look at fighters on the scale. You could opt to not look at weigh ins of course but I consider it free information as long as you don't put more weight on it than it deserves, pun not intended. Much more reliable information than for example listening to prefight interviews with fighters that are forever coming off their "best camp ever".

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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03.17.2023 | 5:56 PM ET

Gliesie

Predictions: 7 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 3398th

I keep telling everyone on here Shore is ****. 

No one believes me.

He may well win this one because Amirkhani (though I think is the better grappler) has serious cardio issues when he grapples.

But he is soon to be exposed imo.

"Positivity is a positive"

foppa420
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03.17.2023 | 6:38 PM ET

@Rah

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

I'm gonna be honest, I don't think hes anything special either but I do think hes moving up at the right time like Nathaniel Wood.

Hes going to have some very good fights at 145 but I dont think hes a ranked fighter. 
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03.17.2023 | 6:41 PM ET

ufc london

Predictions: 9 of 15 Winners, 0 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 3355th

i went twice last year to watch are patrick do the job twice over times of me life alot of emotion in both of them the latter more so but hacve to side loyaltys aside this card this year is epic i mean just look at early prelims there worth a main card fight night on there own and the main card will be one to go down in the history books uk mma on the map permenant
foppa420
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03.17.2023 | 6:47 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

Had no idea Lerone Murphy was shot in the face and has fake teeth. That's insane.


* Edited at 03.17.2023, 6:48 PM ET *

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03.17.2023 | 6:48 PM ET

Foppa420

Predictions: 8 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 1970th

He is live 
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03.17.2023 | 6:53 PM ET

@ryan

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 1257th

I want to believe that and everything I've watched of him so far says that he could be but Murphy is a beast. Would be a massive debut win if Santos pulled it off.
ryanQ
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03.17.2023 | 7:08 PM ET

@foppa420

Predictions: 8 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 1970th

Yeah it definitely would be, Murphy is the A side no doubt, but I do think this kid is a dog and he definitely could win, kid seems fired up and ready to prove everyone wrong. I can’t sit here an say he will win comfortably, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Murphy won but I genuinely think it is worth it to take a shot of Santos, my only worry with him if he comes out super aggressive and gasses himself out 

* Edited at 03.17.2023, 7:11 PM ET *

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03.17.2023 | 7:13 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 607th

No kidding..kid pun unintended Santos was fired up, that energy seemed real he is glad to be there and will give a performance.
Is he even UFC level or maybe Murphs I doubt the latter time will tell. 

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ryanQ
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03.17.2023 | 7:16 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 15 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 1970th

The kid is ufc level look at his wins 

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