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UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

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10.24.2022 | 11:38 PM ET

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UFC 285
  • Saturday 03.04.2023 at 05:30 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $12,150,000
  • Attendance: 19,471
  • MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout   Info
Jon Jones   defeats   Ciryl Gane   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:04 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Valentina Shevchenko   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:34 Round 4 of 5, 19:34 Total Bout Page
Shavkat Rakhmonov   defeats   Geoff Neal   via Submission, Standing Rear Naked Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Jalin Turner   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bo Nickal   defeats   Jamie Pickett   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   2:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Cody Garbrandt   defeats   Trevin Jones   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dricus Du Plessis   defeats   Derek Brunson   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   4:59 Round 2 of 3, 9:59 Total Bout Page
Amanda Ribas   defeats   Viviane Araujo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marc-André Barriault   defeats   Julian Marquez   via KO/TKO, Punches (standing TKO)   4:12 Round 2 of 3, 9:12 Total Bout Page
Ian Machado Garry   defeats   Kenan Song   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:22 Round 3 of 3, 14:22 Total Bout Page
Cameron Saaiman   defeats   Mana Martinez   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tabatha Ricci   defeats   Jessica Penne   via Submission, Armbar   2:14 Round 2 of 3, 7:14 Total Bout Page
Farid Basharat   defeats   Da'Mon Blackshear   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loik Radzhabov   defeats   Esteban Ribovics   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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03.03.2023 | 11:35 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 6 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 5378th

**** foppa you dumb bum

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03.03.2023 | 11:39 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 8 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 5284th

No downvotes from me but I think Blackshear and even Song probably have much better chances. I wouldn’t touch any of them of course though, because if Blackshear couldn’t beat Zalal then there’s no reason to think he beats a Basharat bro, and I just don’t trust Song. 
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03.03.2023 | 11:45 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 555 Points   |   Tied for 4036th

Did u see Jamie Pickett IG in the waiting room Ciyrl,Shavkat, Jalin on there phone while Grasso praying to the Gods above she can pull this off?

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03.03.2023 | 11:49 AM ET

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Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 765 Points   |   Tied for 804th



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03.03.2023 | 11:52 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 6 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 5378th

Where they comin from?????

These wannabe mezzor are crazyyyy💀💀💀💀

Clown Tanner.... If u think Song has any chance, you should stop watching MMA 💀... GARRY IS THE LOCK OF THE CARD AFTER BO

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Drop your trash ass house on Kenan and join mezzor in the homeless shelter you ******* bum
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03.03.2023 | 11:57 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Ian Garry is babyfaced childish ************ who married his own brazilian mother and took her last name
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03.03.2023 | 11:58 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

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03.03.2023 | 11:59 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Jones vs. Gane
Ciryl Gane, SUB, R4
Heel Hook midway through round 4, watch...

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03.03.2023 | 12:00 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 695 Points   |   Tied for 1913th

No way mezzor is picking song kenan

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03.03.2023 | 12:08 PM ET

report sent

can we get this maggot banned please 
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03.03.2023 | 12:09 PM ET

Baby bracket

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 2457th

What exactly are you "fading" in my last post? Do you even know how to read? 
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03.03.2023 | 12:09 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

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03.03.2023 | 12:16 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 3985th

Brunson vs. Du Plessis
Derek Brunson, DEC
Du Plessis is a bum. Even Derek has better striking.

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03.03.2023 | 12:18 PM ET

Foppa…

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 3645th

I think there’s a fault in your reasoning: Shavkat is not a top 7-10 ww. He’s top 1-3 ww. Just like rankings had every top fighter lower until they had the big wins to legimitize higher rankings.

Neal is a good fighter but Shavkat is an elite fighter whose only weakness is maybe lack of head movement. That again is compensated more than enough by reach and very high level skills all around. There’s some very low puncher’s chance or maybe a good ole leg break on kick chance but nothing else. 1/9 chance tops for Neal.
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03.03.2023 | 12:18 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 720 Points   |   Tied for 1523rd

I'm a little bit confused with Marquez/Barriault ... can Barriault outwrestle him? I d not remember Barriault took someone down and Marquez is easy to do it.

some opinions?
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03.03.2023 | 12:23 PM ET

@sulorak

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 2457th

What I meant was that as of right now, based on their accomplishments, you really can't rank either Neal or Shavkhat outside the current top 10 and arguably top 7. I will concede the wording is confusing. 

I was framing that against Grasso/Shev, which is of course a little different because Shev is the champ. I was just making the arguement of all those lopsided fights, Neal is really the only one close to his opponents level.

I dont think that's super controversial nor really debatable. 
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03.03.2023 | 12:24 PM ET

@foppa420

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

I have bets on Neal:

Neal ML +470
Neal Round 1 +1600 (only 0.1 unit bet on such a long shot prop)
Round 3 Starts +150
FGTD +220

Agree that Shavkat will probably win. If Shavkat wins without getting the finish I break even.

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03.03.2023 | 12:27 PM ET

@glieese

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 2457th

I like the strategy. It really is a dog or pass fight for me and I can't talk myself into it. Shavkhat should win. The odds are so good for someone with Neals resume but I typically dont pick against guys with 100% finish rates as a general rule.

I'm a firm believer in riding those waves until they crash into the shoreline. Same reason I'm taking Ribovics. 
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03.03.2023 | 12:32 PM ET

@foppa420

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

If you're not sure about your gut feelings on these just do what I did for WMMA last year and run what I call a "ghost book" where you simulate the bets.
That way you risk nothing. If Neal wins you put in a +4.7u profit (or whatever the highest line is that you could get on him) and if he loses that's a -1u notation in the book. Then come back in a couple of months a year whatever and have a look to see if you'd have made a profit or not.

I obtained "security" in dog betting by just having a very low stake at first that I grew more and more over time as I found out I had the skills for it. I lose more bets than I win but make a good profit.

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03.03.2023 | 12:32 PM ET

@foppa

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 3645th

Ok, after re-read I understood the point. Agreed that other underdogs are more like journeymen vs. Top competition compared to Neal who has some legit wins and earns currently his top 10 spot. 

Well except for maybe Grasso like you said. She might survive longer in her fight than Neal in his. Of course opponents are different too as Shavkat has absolutely ran through everyone after very short feeling out phase in each fight. Sheva has a lot of decisions even if most competition has had no actual chance of winning.

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