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UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane

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10.24.2022 | 11:38 PM ET

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UFC 285
  • Saturday 03.04.2023 at 05:30 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $12,150,000
  • Attendance: 19,471
  • MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout   Info
Jon Jones   defeats   Ciryl Gane   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:04 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Valentina Shevchenko   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:34 Round 4 of 5, 19:34 Total Bout Page
Shavkat Rakhmonov   defeats   Geoff Neal   via Submission, Standing Rear Naked Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Jalin Turner   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bo Nickal   defeats   Jamie Pickett   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   2:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Cody Garbrandt   defeats   Trevin Jones   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dricus Du Plessis   defeats   Derek Brunson   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   4:59 Round 2 of 3, 9:59 Total Bout Page
Amanda Ribas   defeats   Viviane Araujo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marc-André Barriault   defeats   Julian Marquez   via KO/TKO, Punches (standing TKO)   4:12 Round 2 of 3, 9:12 Total Bout Page
Ian Machado Garry   defeats   Kenan Song   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:22 Round 3 of 3, 14:22 Total Bout Page
Cameron Saaiman   defeats   Mana Martinez   via Decision, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tabatha Ricci   defeats   Jessica Penne   via Submission, Armbar   2:14 Round 2 of 3, 7:14 Total Bout Page
Farid Basharat   defeats   Da'Mon Blackshear   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loik Radzhabov   defeats   Esteban Ribovics   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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DamienHandel420
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03.01.2023 | 7:07 PM ET

Andrew

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 2614th

Bro, Breakdown the fights or don't breakdown the fights, Were not gonna beg you to breakdown the fights, Don't get me wrong, More breakdown are helpful, But we don't care if you breakdown the fights or not, Your breakdown are most likely gonna be why Valentina and Bo Nickal will win anyways

* Edited at 03.01.2023, 7:10 PM ET *

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03.01.2023 | 7:19 PM ET

10 out of 10 FREE PLAYS I HAVE GIVEN HERE CASHED!!! ANOTHER ONE!!



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03.01.2023 | 7:21 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 695 Points   |   Tied for 1913th

Oh yay bo nickal ITD. You are truly a genius 

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03.01.2023 | 7:27 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 14 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 4821st

You know on the broadcast they're gonna show some ******* that bet over half a million on Bo Nickal, shev, & Ian Garry 

* Edited at 03.01.2023, 7:28 PM ET *

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03.01.2023 | 7:30 PM ET

Andrew

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 3333rd

Do you consider Saaiman to be a lock?
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03.01.2023 | 7:51 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 2192nd

Saiiman is not a lock. Too hittable even though he's the better fighter everywhere but power.

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03.01.2023 | 7:56 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

just look at em juicy odds here, if you cross out first 2 rounds for each and one of other 6 hits minimum u can hit of your bet is x15, max - x31. it's definetly worth a try, at least i'll try to hit one of these six. 



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03.01.2023 | 8:10 PM ET

Duck******

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 770 Points   |   Tied for 712th

Stay down ***** and never step to me again.

I never asked anyone to beg you clown, I just wondered if anyone was interested since there are so many locks this week. 
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03.01.2023 | 8:11 PM ET

Harbinger

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 770 Points   |   Tied for 712th

I wouldn't say a lock like Shavkat or bo nickal but I think he's got a very good chance of winning 
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03.01.2023 | 8:42 PM ET

LHW vs large athletic HVW rarely works out well.

Predictions: 12 of 14 Winners, 6 Perfect, 835 Points   |   Tied for 209th

 OK, highly regarded light heavyweight moves up to fight a highly regarded heavyweight and wins. The heavyweight is a large athletic heavyweight. So there is a true size advantage. History is pretty thin with examples of success. This is as close as can be found without a database.

Daniel Cormier def. Stipe Miocic via KO (Punches) R1 4:33 Jul / 07 / 2018 

Stipe Miocic def. Daniel Cormier R4 4:09 via TKO (Punches) Aug / 17 / 2019 

Stipe Miocic [233] def. Daniel Cormier [236] via Unanimous Decision (49-46, 49-46, 48-47) Aug / 15 / 2020 

Daniel Cormier def. Derrick Lewis via Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) R2 2:14 Nov / 03 / 2018 

Dan Henderson defeats Fedor Emelianenko R1 4:12 via TKO (Punches) Jul / 30 / 2011 

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03.01.2023 | 9:06 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

Shevchenko vs. Grasso
Valentina Shevchenko, DEC
Grssso is really good abd realky cute. But she is fighting a half man with long hair and kicks. Decision.

Neal vs. Rakhmonov
Shavkat Rakhmonov, DEC
Neal has good takedown defence so submission hard to get. But I think Shavkat has better striking and better at long distance striking. Decision or late finish.

Gamrot vs. Turner
Mateusz Gamrot, DEC
Turner = terrible takedown defence. Problem will play jiu-jitsu on his back and Gamrot will grind him out. Reach means nothing on your back and sweeping is difficult when you cant get your legs under

Pickett vs. Nickal
Bo Nickal, TKO, R1
This will be a TKO not a submission imo

Garbrandt vs. Jones
Cody Garbrandt, DEC
Changed my mind. Cody will wrestle and Jones is too low volume. No chin wins

Brunson vs. Du Plessis
Derek Brunson, DEC
BumSon wins. DDP fraud like MezzBum

Araujo vs. Ribas
Viviane Araujo, TKO, R2
Female No Chin vs hard hitter

Marquez vs. Barriault
Marc-André Barriault, DEC
Pace pressure and volume vs Miley Reject.

Machado Garry vs. Song
Ian Machado Garry, DEC
Decision not KO.

Martinez vs. Saaiman
Cameron Saaiman, DEC
Saimon won't finish Mana who is good. But he will win

Penne vs. Ricci
Tabatha Ricci, TKO
Retire please

Basharat vs. Blackshear
Farid Basharat, DEC
Good fight. Possible late finish

Radzhabov vs. Ribovics
Loik Radzhabov, DEC
Loik is high level

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03.01.2023 | 9:07 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 630 Points   |   Tied for 3097th

Freed Guess  You said there are many examples, yet you gave 5 examples and 4 of them are DC.

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03.01.2023 | 9:07 PM ET

Tieoken

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

I agree with you. Not a lock. People are under estimating Mana

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03.01.2023 | 9:08 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 3763rd


Ribas  |  Decision: I feel like the time off after her last fight will give Ribas a chance to come back in better form but Araujo who is much older is gonna start to decline after her Grasso loss.

Marquez  |  Submission  |  Round 2: both pretty average fighters just feel like Marquez has that extra bit of danger that can get it done.

Machado Garry  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 2 My lock of the card is 100%, Ian Machido Garry, this is a step down in competition and I think he dispatches him really easily with a brutal tko and takes home a potn bonus.

Saaiman  |  Submission  |  Round 3: Martinez is anything special but Saaiman could be.

Ricci  |  Decision: if Ricci can't beat a 40-year-old Penne then there's no hope for her as a contender.
 
Basharat  |  Decision: Basharat bros are the future and Blackshear isn't amazing, to begin with.
Ribovics  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 2: Radzhabov is taking this on pretty short notice and Ribovics has a way cooler tapology pic so...

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03.01.2023 | 9:10 PM ET

Freed

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 690 Points   |   Tied for 2018th

We are not talking about a highly regarded LHW.

We are talking about the GOAT on steroids. Just like me

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03.01.2023 | 9:10 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 2457th

They're the same height and Bones has a reach advantage. He's spent 4 years adding 40lbs to his frame and figuring out how to move around with that new frame.  There's no "true size advantage" in this fight. You're looking way too much into the fact Bones has fought at LHW until now. His brother is an All Pro NFL Defensive End. He's always had the size to be a heavyweight and clearly comes from good athletic genes.

Arguing Gane has a speed advantage because he's been a heavyweight longer might make sense, but there's no "size" advantage here. They're literally the same size. 

* Edited at 03.01.2023, 9:16 PM ET *

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03.01.2023 | 10:03 PM ET

Andrew

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 2614th

Just tell us what your locks are then????. You don’t need to announce  your picks is coming tommorow, No one care mate that your picks are coming tomorrow 


* Edited at 03.01.2023, 10:06 PM ET *

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03.01.2023 | 10:46 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 555 Points   |   Tied for 4068th

Shevchenko vs. Grasso
Valentina Shevchenko, TKO, R3
Grasso is solid, but I think Shevchenko is just a step ahead of her and I hope she wins so we get Blanchfield vs her.

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03.01.2023 | 10:57 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 3452nd

Jones vs. Gane
Jon Jones, DEC
The much anticipated return on Jon Jones. It’s a unique matchup as Jon has looked very lack lustre his past two performances however it’s hard to be motivated to push the pace when you are fighting nobodies. This is a unique challenge and Jon seems very motivated, don’t expect him to fight again after obtaining the heavyweight belt. Gane is incredibly green, how he was outpaced by Francis is incredibly embarrassing.

Shevchenko vs. Grasso
Valentina Shevchenko, SUB, R4
Y’all must’ve forgot type performance against a low level opponent

Neal vs. Rakhmonov
Shavkat Rakhmonov, TKO, R2
This is the crowning of a new contender.

Pickett vs. Nickal
Bo Nickal, SUB, R1
Nickal makes it look easy, submission via neck crank in the first round.

Garbrandt vs. Jones
Cody Garbrandt, DEC
Cody being favourited here speaks to his veteran status, couple of rough last outings but Trevin Jones is not a top 10 calibre opponent.

Brunson vs. Du Plessis
Dricus Du Plessis, TKO, R1
DDP knocks Derek Brunson out

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03.01.2023 | 11:00 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 725 Points   |   Tied for 1393rd

I hope Grasso wins because she's more entertaining to watch than Valentina. It won't happen though.

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