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UFC 284: Makhachev vs. Volkanovski

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10.07.2022 | 11:04 AM ET

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UFC 284
  • Saturday 02.11.2023 at 06:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: RAC Arena
  • Location: Perth, Western Australia
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Dominick Cruz, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $4,086,687
  • Attendance: 14,124
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: N/A | TV Ratings: 1.13M avg. viewers (ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Islam Makhachev   defeats   Alexander Volkanovski   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Yair Rodriguez   defeats   Josh Emmett   via Submission, Triangle Choke   4:19 Round 2 of 5, 9:19 Total Bout Page
Jack Della Maddalena   defeats   Randy Brown   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Justin Tafa   defeats   Parker Porter   via KO/TKO, Counter Left   1:05 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jimmy Crute   vs.   Alonzo Menifield   Ends in a Draw, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Modestas Bukauskas   defeats   Tyson Pedro   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Josh Culibao   defeats   Melsik Baghdasaryan   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:02 Round 2 of 3, 7:02 Total Bout Page
Kleydson Rodrigues   defeats   Shannon Ross   via KO/TKO, Kicks and Punches   0:59 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jamie Mullarkey   defeats   Francisco Prado   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jack Jenkins   defeats   Don Shainis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loma Lookboonmee   defeats   Elise Reed   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:44 Round 2 of 3, 5:44 Total Bout Page
Blake Bilder   defeats   Shane Young   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Elves Brener   defeats   Zubaira Tukhugov   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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Basedium nitrate
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01.13.2023 | 2:36 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 5068th

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FromBrazilWithLove
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01.13.2023 | 4:16 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 5039th

Makhachev vs. Volkanovski
Islam Makhachev, SUB, R2
Islam can submit Alex

Rodriguez vs. Emmett
Josh Emmett, TKO
Yair Ok by spinning kick

2023.01.13 11:26 PM ET

bout announced

Zubaira Tukhugov vs. Elves Brener at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
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01.14.2023 | 2:06 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 1044th

So Tukhugov was going to move up to LW to fight Alvarez but now he's sticking at FW? What gives? 

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paulopasta
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01.14.2023 | 2:41 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 600 Points   |   Tied for 87th

Tukhugov vs. Brenner
Zubaira Tukhugov, TKO, R2
Zuba will take this one with relative ease

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01.15.2023 | 12:32 PM ET

mulefloyd

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

if this fight is at 145 - Zuba will miss weight. 
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01.15.2023 | 12:37 PM ET

lol

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

Volkanovski has a reach advantage by 1''
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01.15.2023 | 2:02 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 2510th

I think it'll be 155 considering zuba was gonna fight Joel Alvarez 
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01.15.2023 | 4:43 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

Justin tafa’s younger (and far better) brother has been signed and fighting Austen lane

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2023.01.15 4:47 PM ET

bout announced

Junior Tafa vs. Austen Lane at 265 lbs (120.2 kg)
Hippie
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01.15.2023 | 4:50 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1365th

Tafa vs. Lane
Junior Tafa, TKO, R1
🔥🔥🔥

dcastledine
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01.15.2023 | 6:32 PM ET

Why is tafa vs Porter on the main card?

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

I would like to know which idiot that works for the UFC decided to put this on the main card pretty much any other prelim other than Ross vs Rodrigues and Reed vs lookbonmee I would prefer on the main card and to have the audacity to make people pay 80$ for that ****. It’s not even like he’s a huge draw tafa only has 50k on Instagram. It is because he trains with Mark hunt??

* Edited at 01.15.2023, 6:33 PM ET *

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01.15.2023 | 6:35 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

Yeah I don’t understand why they love tafa so much lol. He’s really bad and his brother is literally better than him🤣🤣

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dcastledine
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01.15.2023 | 6:36 PM ET

Does he have more videos of Dana slapping his wife or something

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

Like he surely has something he’s blackmailing them with to get the spots on cards that he does
Hippie
Hippie

01.15.2023 | 6:38 PM ET

^^

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1365th

You will make me change my prediction..

* Edited at 01.15.2023, 6:38 PM ET *

paulopasta
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01.15.2023 | 7:03 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 600 Points   |   Tied for 87th

It’s a mystery as to why Tafa gets as much push as he does
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01.15.2023 | 8:15 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 1821st

It’s because they like heavyweight that will stand and bang on main cards , but Tafa is the 1 in Jared Vandera 1-5 ufc record, also is like 2-5 in the promotion himself, Pretty **** fight skill wise, 

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01.15.2023 | 8:45 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 2121st

He won't stay on the main card, this order will definitely change 
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01.16.2023 | 1:48 AM ET

Drchaotic

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1365th

Idk the ufc likes having **** heavyweight fights that lead to Ko's on the main card. If they take Tafa off the main they're only gonna replace him with Tyson Pedro lol
dcastledine
dcastledine

01.16.2023 | 2:51 AM ET

Card order

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

Pretty sure the card order got confirmed somewhere and I’m sure tafa tweeted about being on the main card and the full card is on ESPN which probably means the card order has been set if it’s been on there

* Edited at 01.16.2023, 2:52 AM ET *

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01.16.2023 | 5:16 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 3754th

Makhachev vs. Volkanovski
Alexander Volkanovski, TKO, R3
I really think that Volkanovski's KO Power and Eye of Tiger (finishing ability) is really underrated: Since December of 2019 Volkanovski has only faced the most durable fighters in his weight class: Holloway (3 times), Brian Ortega and The Korean Zombie. Against Ortega although the People remember a lot the submission attempts of Ortega (who has an excellent level of BJJ), Volkanovski also gave him a beating in striking and especially with his ground and pound he stopped Ortega in the third round, Ortega Coaches carried the body of Ortega looked like he was a corpse and by the end of the fourth round Ortega was so hurt that Herb Dean let him out in the last round when he was clearly in no condition to fight. Volkanovski put an impressive beating on The Korean Zombie, the reason why Alex didn't knock him out earlier in the fight is because of Jung's incredible absorption and because he fought him with respect knowing that he had him completely dominated. Volkanovski also put a beatdown over Holloway in the third fight leaving him at times even in a Gaethje vs. Ferguson last rounds-like zone for few moments. The perfect example of Volkanovski's Finishing Ability is his second round against Mendes where after being knocked down Alex stood up hurting Chad with his hands and did not stop throwing punches until he got the knockdown and finished the fight.

Volkanovski's evolution in striking since 2020 is undeniable. At lightweight as a profesional fighter he has a record of 5-0 with 3 KO's and 2 SUBs, as a welterweight he has 4-1 and 3 KO's wins. There are fighters who increase in KO Power when they go. up in weight class or who lose it when they go down in weight class. A Volkanovski who will have a higher walk-in weoght for this fight and who has improved his striking considerably compared to his Pre-UFC era will be considerably more dangerous fighting at lightweight.

Obviously Islam Makhachev is not an easy target to hit and clearly his plan is to wrestling and avoid trading strikes. But Volk was a national level Wrestling champion in 201 (prior to passing through rugby), thinking that his TDD will be void is somewhat illogical, everything will depend on how hard Volkanovski works in the defense of chain wrestling and how to get up if he taken to the ground (smething in which he already showed effectiveness against Mendes, who despite taking him to the ground 3 times could only control him for 45 seconds). In my opinion Volkanovski is going to carry a lot more KO Power in his punches as he moves up in weight and Islam doesn't have the inhumane absorption of strikes that characterize Ortega, Jung and Holloway. The real danger for Alex is that he will have no answer in the scrambles if he is taken to the ground (where Islam can impose his technique and physical power), but even in a decision, if Alex defends the takedowns signficanlty and the pass more time in striking, Volk has the advantage: Makhachev striking is rrally good compared to Khabib's, but if you compare it to Alex's, Volkanovski has the same hypothetical advantage in the standing fight in the way that Islam has the advantage on the ground.



* Edited at 01.16.2023, 5:55 AM ET *

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01.16.2023 | 10:06 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

Bout order changes like a million times until fight week but 9/10 times the main card stays the same. If it’s not tafa, it’s probably gonna be Tyson Pedro on the main card lol

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