UFC Fight Night: Tsarukyan vs. Gamrot

The official Tapology discussion thread for the event!

Rah it’s okay to me mad I just have one question… how much did u lose laying down money on arman “lock and confident play” tsaryukan?

Tell me Mr AyLame. How did Ganrot win. Break it down for me with 3 page like usual 

1&2 Arman
3 close but Gamrot 
4 close i dont know
5 Gamrot

I don't even think judges are aware that they can score a 10-10 round. It's either that, or they are not allowed to score a 10-10 round. I can't remember a judge that ever scored a 10-10 round. Maybe someone can refresh my memory if that actually happened in the UFC.

4 wasn’t close if you score damage over control. Knockdown makes it very clear.

Armen won rounds 1, 2, 4 & 5. Rounds 3 & 4 were close but Gamrot didn't win any rounds clearly. I think Armen won round four, 49-46 Tsarukyan.

* Edited at 06.26.2022, 2:07 AM ET *

“ I don't understand the people saying arman inflicted more damage..? Armans face was more mangled after the fight, Gamrot looked relatively unscathed. Plus Gamrots wrestling was better and he finished strong. This was an easy 49-48 score. 
Weird how so many so called MMA fans are oblivious on how fights are scored. This wasn't THAT hard of a fight to tally.”


******** and wrong on every point!


Arman done more damage, his strikes were much more impactful. Thrown and landed with much more fight ending intent than Gamrot. Luckily decisions are not decided by whose face looks the worse!


They are evenly matched in the wrestling, Gamrot had the better of it in this fight but he didn’t  do much damage or secure many potential fight ending situations. Which, if you read and understand the scoring criteria, doesn’t count for much…strikes/grappling with fight ending potential, outweighs grappling that is just control time and volume strikes without impact.


Here’s a breakdown of the criteria the judges (are supposed to) use….



Effective Striking/Grappling shall be considered the first priority of round assessments. Effective Aggressiveness is a ‘Plan B’ and should not be considered unless the judge does not see ANY advantage in the Effective Striking/Grappling realm. Cage/Ring Control (‘Plan C’) should only be needed when ALL other criteria are 100% even for both competitors. This will be an extremely rare occurrence.
PRIORITIZED CRITERIA:
Effective Striking/Grappling
“Legal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative impact.
Successful execution of takedowns, submission attempts, reversals and the achievement of advantageous positions that produce immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute to the end of the match, with the IMMEDIATE weighing more heavily than the cumulative impact.”
It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown.
Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position.
This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when scoring a round. The next two criteria must be treated as a backup and used ONLY when Effective Striking/Grappling is 100% equal for the round.

First off, it’s pages, not page, english pls 

Second: you wrote alllll this just to go 5/10 and cry because your “lock and confident play” lost all ur bankroll 


My reasons for the dog plays

Tafon - Equal reach. More power. Ulberg's chin is up in the air and his hands are down. Got cracked by Cherant last fight. Tafon has better wrestling and will win the clinch. Has 3 round cardio and Ulberg will slow down late. 

Kelleher - Mario is good but Kelleher should wrestle for 3 rounds and grind him out. Also a chance of catching his neck. Doubt this will stay standing for long.

Demopoulos - Striking is equal for both. Demopoulos is younger, faster and tough. Working wrestling with Cejudo. If it hits the ground Frey will get tapped quick.

Reasons for the other plays

JP - Could be the closest fight on the card and Durden is live, but JP has the better offensive wrestling and cardio though he too does slow down. Main worry is his chin. But Durden is not Bruno Silva or Montel Jackson. Even then JP does not seem to get put out cold though he gets dropped, often gets up again. Can't see Durden doing that beyond first round due to cardio, but I don't think even that's likely. Skill wise striking is close though Buys can be more tentative, but again against Silva or Montel which is different. Other worry is JPs defensive wrestling but even if taken down, his scrambles are good and likely tire out Durden. Durden often falls to quick submissions and JP is good at those. Looking at Durden's wins, I feel he actually lost to Gutierrez and Aori so could actually be 0-4 in the UFC. JP has fought the much, much better competition. In the Gutierrez fight he had his back for almost a round and did nothing, then gassed and lost the last 2. Sure it was short notice but that fight should not have been a draw. This is a close fight, but overall JP is more skilled and likely to be motivated. Whoever shoots first with the wrestling is likely to get ahead quickly and think that will be JP. He is the favorite for a reason.

Baudot - Parisian has striking volume but only for one and a half rounds. Unlikely to have power to put out Baudot unless with some unexpected spinning attack. Not very likely to happen as most now aware of that risk. Baudot could get taken down which is trouble but seems unlikely. Parisian likely fades in round 2 -3 and Baudot likely takes over and maybe puts him away late. Baudot has better skills, better cardio and seems durable. Fairly confident play for me. 

I respect your opinion for sure but I respectfully disagree regarding Armen and Moises not being locks. Gamrot is amazing, agreed but has not faced a wrestler on the level of Armen who has been training with Armenian Olympic medalists for this camp from what I hear. Gamrot has 5 round experience but not against this level of continuous wrestling attack and we saw he started to fatigue against CDF in round 2. His striking is good but Armen is better there as well. Armen also has the better bjj. So overall better skills, more reach, better cardio, better striking wrestling and grappling. Also not to discredit Gamrot's amazing achievements but strength of schedule in UFC is better for Armen. Gamrot has early finishes of Stephens, Holtzman and CDF due to a rib injury where he was beginning to slow down. I feel Armen's wins are better. I do really think Armen is a lock here and a confident play.

Regarding Moises, he is just better everywhere. One area Giagos is better is offensive wrestling, but cardio does not support that for more than a round. Striking is better and has very good counters and grappling is better. Giagos could possibly win round one but not likely to do much damage. After that Moises taked over. 3rd most confident play after Shavkat and Umar.

Hope that explains my thought process. 

* Edited at 06.23.2022, 2:20 PM ET *

There wasn’t a 10-10 in the rose vs Carla fight so I don’t think they even score them anymore

Anyone that lost money on Arman can make it back next week double. Izzy, Volk, O Malley, and Strickland. Probably Garry too. Also, hate to say it but Jake Paul is free money at even odds rn 

I thought round 3 was actually closer than 4 but thats just me. Good fight. 

And I notice how you plagiarise things AyLame.
I mentioned Armen training with Armenian Olympic wrestlers which was actually turned out not true for this camp.

I see you put that in your breakdown like you found that info. Fraud. You taking other people's picks and trying to act smart on here. What a clown

That’s not true in the slightest, I heard that in a podcast lol. Why would I listen to your irrelevant ass?🤣🤣don’t give urself too much credit buddy 

Strickland is not a lock @kylethemc

Laughing because here u are pointing fingers yet at the same time u think damage constitutes a win, buddy 1 to 2 elbows can have someone looking like an half opened tomato can but at the same time they have controlled a significant portion of the round which u guessed is scored individually within a 10 point MUST system so yeah control over damage 9x10 

******** heard in podcast. Lol. Stealing other people's info and picks. Fraud

Also if I didn’t copy picks, I would be 5/10 like you, but I’m not hahahahhaahsh. So salty 

You’re right he isn’t at all. That’s not a parlay piece maybe a straight shot 

@rah literally said it in the santino de Franco podcast u ******* dip****🤣🤣