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UFC Fight Night: Holm vs. Vieira

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01.30.2022 | 8:32 PM ET

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UFC Fight Night
Bout   Info
Ketlen Vieira   defeats   Holly Holm   via Decision, Split   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Michel Pereira   defeats   Santiago Ponzinibbio   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chidi Njokuani   defeats   Duško Todorović   via KO/TKO, Elbow   4:48 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Tabatha Ricci   defeats   Polyana Viana   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jun Yong Park   defeats   Eryk Anders   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Joseph Holmes   defeats   Alen Amedovski   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:04 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jailton Almeida   defeats   Parker Porter   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:35 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Uros Medic   defeats   Omar Morales   via KO/TKO, Punches   3:05 Round 2 of 3, 8:05 Total Bout Page
Jonathan Martinez   defeats   Vince Morales   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chase Hooper   defeats   Felipe Colares   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   3:00 Round 3 of 3, 13:00 Total Bout Page
Sam Hughes   defeats   Elise Reed   via KO/TKO, Elbows From Mount   3:52 Round 3 of 3, 13:52 Total Bout Page

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TheMess63
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05.23.2022 | 10:19 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

keep writing your paragraphs of nonsense to amuse yourself. its pretty pathetic that you care this much and you don't even bet or play draftkings really says it all. your opinion is worthless, much like the time you spend here lecturing people and making snarky disrespectful remarks about fighters. just a clown acting in the circus. heres your attention. Now you can go back to making russia ukraine war threads on a mma site just so you can talk to strangers more. You couldnt be more of troll loser if you tried. I dont care holm lost. People who actually gamble understand risk and move on after one loss. Its the point of the inconsistency. Not one human being can speak to why or how these fights are scored. One example to the next have stark differences. You just want to belittle strangers to feel superior. You didn't even enter picks this event. 


The saying goes "put your money where your mouth is" you only talk, talk is cheap.

* Edited at 05.23.2022, 11:12 PM ET *

"Records are for djs"

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05.24.2022 | 12:17 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 520 Points   |   Tied for 1097th

Take it easy guys... it's all good... 
it's just a game... and suppose to
have some fun all together... !

Both sides are correct and wrong at the same time,
it is what it is... and everyone independently takes his
Ws & Ls and keep going forward... !

No needs to saying any heavy words to each other...
or keep spamming the threads literally for nothing... !

In general to everyone :
Some posters should be thinking that they maybe
are doing more damage than even can think about it... ! 
When is the last time that you "help" any other member... 
especially a new one... !?

Yes, my English aren't the best out there, 
but i think you all can get my point of view... !

@TARTARA

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Baldric Eggling
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05.24.2022 | 12:18 AM ET

Here's what you said:

reflecting back over the last few months of controversial dec's, objectionable stoppages, point deductions etc. Im really starting to get sick of downright collusion in MMA betting scene. Holly Holm is a super boring fighter to watch. But when you break down the matchup. It was easy money. She went out there and won hands down. Vegas had alot of parlays to bust. They did it just like usual. Robbing us right in front of our own eyes. How many more times can we be blatantly fooled. It happens in a pattern every event. 


But you also said:


 Not one human being can speak to why or how these fights are scored. One example to the next have stark differences. You just want to belittle strangers to feel superior.


But first, let's address the first statement in bold. My question is this: Why? Why do you think Holm won that fight? You've yet to provide a single argument as to why that might be true. Not one. That's because you don't have one. Your argument is 'because I bet on Holm'. That's literally it.


I can absolutely speak to how and why fights are scored the way they are, because there's a scoring criteria which designates what actions and phenomena are valued in a fight.  If you were to actually read and understand it, you wouldn't have to whip out your tinfoil hat whenever a decision went against a ****** bet you made. And Betting Holm was a ****** bet. Absolutely woeful. You would very likely improve your betting performance overall, also.


That isn't to say some decisions aren't terrible. But the amount of objectively apparent robberies that happen in MMA are uncommon. Holm vs Viera was not one, and the right girl won. That's just how it is.


Stop trying to explain away your ****** read on a fight by way of a conspiracy theory.  You ****** up, and you lost your money because you ****** up. The judges weren't wrong.


You were.
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05.24.2022 | 12:24 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 842nd

I believe that judging is actually getting better. If we look back a couple of years lay and pray victories were very common. Nowadays you usually have to punch just a little bit even if the ref will allow you to just lay there.
Vieira was a target herself for one of these decisions in her loss to Kunitskaya. In the third round she got Kunitskayas back but just held her there all round doing no damage and threatening no submission. Kunitskaya then managed to reverse in the last seconds and cut Vieira up with an elbow. That was all it took for judges to correctly give her the round and the match.

Yes judges are still quite incosistent but they are slowly as a whole starting to reward the correct criteria more according to the written rules which is damage and sub threats above all else.

But how can we know which matches they throw back to the old way of scoring? Well we can't, so stop parlaying big favorites and look for dog or pass in close matches.

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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05.24.2022 | 12:28 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

Keep talking to ur self. Your a pissant. Another huge paragraph no one’s gonna read. Every week over and over your pathetic. You didn’t even make picks .  this is why we have the block button on here your writing to yourself now. Guaranteed post below here with some really not remotely funny nonsense

* Edited at 05.24.2022, 12:55 AM ET *

"Records are for djs"

Baldric Eggling
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05.24.2022 | 12:49 AM ET

lol OK champ.

This is how I imagine you, and everyone else who was actually low I.Q enough to throw money at a 40 year old WMMA fighter @-240 who hadn't fought in two years and is also a peach-fuzz-upper-lipped-ex-PED-freak with a ****** like a jumbo garlic-butter calamari ring that was dropped off a pier and washed up 24 hours later on the seashore.








* Edited at 05.24.2022, 1:34 AM ET *

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05.24.2022 | 12:56 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2646th

not the monkey prick lmaoo

"Excuse me guys, I want to say something. I want to stay humble, but I have to talk because you guys talk too much"

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05.24.2022 | 12:57 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2646th

You don't have to answer this, but how much money exactly did you lose on Holly Holm?

"Excuse me guys, I want to say something. I want to stay humble, but I have to talk because you guys talk too much"

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05.24.2022 | 12:59 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 2498th

tf is that 😂😂
TheMess63
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05.24.2022 | 1:03 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

A few units across a few parlays. Nothing sizable. 1 unit is only 1% of the bankroll. You have practice money management or it’s really hard to sustain the up’s and downs. It’s more frustrating trying to handicap the potential point totals in draftkings then it is to bet money lines. 

* Edited at 05.24.2022, 1:05 AM ET *

"Records are for djs"

TheMess63
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05.24.2022 | 1:14 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

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* Edited at 05.24.2022, 1:15 AM ET *

"Records are for djs"

HiDefff
HiDefff

05.24.2022 | 7:57 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2611th

That was not a 1 unit freak out. we know better 
TheMess63
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05.24.2022 | 11:51 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

Hideff, go back and read all my comments. No one ever freaked out. Your just talking **** to talk ****. Troll someone else 

* Edited at 05.24.2022, 12:03 PM ET *

"Records are for djs"

HiDefff
HiDefff

05.24.2022 | 12:06 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2611th

"Tape study is the most important aspect of pick making" 


Better go study those judges tapes then. 

How important was the tape study for Holm? How much did it win you? 


Grow up fool no one was "talking ****" I didn't call you anything or threaten anything. I just made a simple statement. 

You'd rather convince yourself that there's a full blown gambling conspiracy going on in the UFC than to believe you just got it wrong lmao that's gotta be an exhausting way to live. 


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05.24.2022 | 12:10 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

You felt the need to call me a liar ? Claimed I freaked out. That’s talking ****. I don’t know you I wasn’t speaking to you, keep your accusations to urself. Someone asked a causal question I answered. I didn’t want to converse with you. Your just regurgitating the same nonsense trying to get a rise like a troll

* Edited at 05.24.2022, 12:31 PM ET *

"Records are for djs"

HiDefff
HiDefff

05.24.2022 | 12:39 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2611th

Ummmm what? You posted an entire paragraph about a ******* conspiracy to rob fighters so casino's could make more money. Citing collusion between sportsbooks and athletic commissions? So no you weren't "just answering a question" 

I just made a simple statement off of an observation. 

I can throw accusations around all I want its a public forum? You responded which suggests you did want to conversate? 

And "Trying" lol I clearly got a rise. You've edited your post 4 times now haha clearly struck a nerve somewhere 


* Edited at 05.24.2022, 12:40 PM ET *

TheMess63
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05.24.2022 | 12:41 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3065th

Congrats. Your a troll you should be proud lol now ur blocked
 

* Edited at 05.24.2022, 12:42 PM ET *

"Records are for djs"

HiDefff
HiDefff

05.24.2022 | 12:45 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2611th

Appreciate it brotha. See ya on next weeks episode of " I lost a bet so surely the whole system is rigged" 


The real question is........ Where do you stand on Pat Barry being a child predator? 
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05.24.2022 | 12:49 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 1972nd

I can’t believe a decision that has 0 impact on anyones lives in this forum got people so fired up that people are still talking about it. Who cares, it’s wmma anyways it’s not like a champ got robbed or anything 

"“Unfortunately you can’t talk like that on FOX” - Joe Rogan"

HiDefff
HiDefff

05.24.2022 | 12:57 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2611th

I hear ya bro but at the same time if you lost any money on it that would be an impact on your life in some sort

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