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12.26.2021 | 4:40 PM ET

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OKTAGON Prime 5
Bout   Info
Bojan Veličković   defeats   Máté Kertész   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Karol Ryšavý   defeats   Ebrahim Hosseinpour   via KO/TKO, Punches   3:05 Round 3 of 3, 13:05 Total Bout Page
Rafael Xavier   defeats   Marcin Łazarz   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kaik Brito   defeats   Andrej Kalašnik   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Matouš Kohout   defeats   Arda Adas   via KO/TKO, Punches   3:30 Round 2 of 3, 8:30 Total Bout Page
Mate Sanikidze   defeats   David Moon   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Christian Jungwirth   defeats   Robert Pukač   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   5:00 Round 2 of 3, 10:00 Total Bout Page
Jakub Tichota   defeats   Janne Elonen-Kulmala   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jose Daniel Toledo Canellas   defeats   Panagiotis Stroumpoulis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Roman Paulus   defeats   Karol Kutyła   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Carlos Graca   defeats   Michal Plesnik   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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2021.12.26 4:41 PM ET

bout announced

Rafael Xavier vs. Miloš Petrášek at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:19 AM ET

bout announced

Michal Plesnik vs. Carlos Graca at 185 lbs (84.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:21 AM ET

bout announced

Roman Paulus vs. Karol Kutyła
2022.03.20 10:22 AM ET

bout announced

Arda Adas vs. Iamik Furtado at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2022.03.20 10:24 AM ET

bout announced

Jose Daniel Toledo Canellas vs. Panagiotis Stroumpoulis at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:24 AM ET

bout announced

Jakub Tichota vs. Janne Elonen-Kulmala at 145 lbs (65.7 kg)
2022.03.20 10:25 AM ET

bout announced

Robert Pukač vs. Christian Jungwirth at 170 lbs (77.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:28 AM ET

bout announced

David Moon vs. Mate Sanikidze at 145 lbs (65.7 kg)
2022.03.20 10:28 AM ET

bout announced

Mateusz Legierski vs. Matouš Kohout at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2022.03.20 10:29 AM ET

bout announced

Kaik Brito vs. Andrej Kalašnik at 170 lbs (77.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:31 AM ET

bout announced

Rafael Xavier vs. Marcin Łazarz at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
2022.03.20 10:31 AM ET

bout status update

Xavier vs. Petrášek Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.03.20 10:33 AM ET

bout announced

Marcin Łazarz vs. František Fodor at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2022.03.20 10:34 AM ET

bout announced

Máté Kertész vs. Bojan Veličković at 170 lbs (77.0 kg)
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03.23.2022 | 9:11 AM ET

GTFOH... No way I am ever betting an OKTAGON event... (i.e. Kaik Brito)

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 17th with 3 others

Someone tell me how Kaik Brito lost his last fight by SD to Knize?  

1st Round:  He hurts him badly early on and almost looks like he could have put him away for a moment.  Knize shows great grit to keep going but Brito clearly dictates the fight and out strikes him including a spinning back fist that broke his nose to end the round.  A very convincing round that was as 10-9 as it gets without quite being a 10-8.

2nd round:  He smokes him with a leg kick to start the second round which puts Knize down (he gets right back up).  Knize then scrambles to get a nice take down.  However, from bottom position Brito fends off Knize from striking range and then lands some vicious elbow shots of his own (still from the bottom) that busts up Knize's face before finally reversing position to then take the top on Knize.  From the top position, Brito catches his breath (they both do really).  It's really sloppy work, Knize tries to do a weak kimura (doesn't do anything), and eventually they both get back up.  Now, I will admit this is poor fighter IQ from Brito.  As they get back up to the fence, Knize sneaks another take down.  For the next 30 seconds to a minute, nothing happens at all until they get back up and Brito actually nails an up kick.  Brito and Knize then start to trade but Brito is the only one landing until a little over 30 seconds left when Knize kicks Brito in the balls.  Finally, Knize has landed something of significance in the round:  an illegal **** kick.  Ref stops the action.  They get back to it and it's a nothing burger one leg clinch from Knize that goes nowhere fast.  This was more competitive but still this was Brito's round.  All of the damage was one way, save for the **** kick.  10-9 easily.

3rd Round:  Brito makes the mistake of resting on his laurels and Knize eventually gets him down and controls top position until they eventually get back up towards the end.  No damage is really going on and both are gassed.  Knize wins this round.

But, this is the problem if you are betting these Oktagon fights.  Whoever you bet needs to get a finish because if they don't, and I have watched a few of these events, these judges will burn you.  Buyer beware and see below:



* Edited at 03.23.2022, 9:12 AM ET *

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03.25.2022 | 6:16 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 475 Points   |   6th Place

Yeah, I can agree with that. If I should name the biggest problem of the Oktagon organization, that's gotta be refs. 
The freshest madness that comes to my mind is the championship fight the last event, that ended up with Keita winning the belt over Paradaiser and sure he won, but the fight was objectively 49-48 Keita. One referee scored that 49-43 Keita. 49-43!! What the actual ****? It's worth mentioning, these are professional referees we talk about. Professional and bribable? Who knows...
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03.25.2022 | 6:25 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 17th with 3 others

LOL... So a guy won a round and then had 3 rounds that went 8-10 against him?  Possibly a 10-7 mixed in there?  ***?

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03.26.2022 | 12:09 PM ET

Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points   |   Tied for 101st


As far for refs and judges, they are trying, they brought german ones, they have had the same ones that judges ufc event week prior etc., it certainly got better, but this is a sport wide problem, there are Sal D'Amatos and early/late stoppages that you can't avoid. It is just a bad look, if it goes to local fighter. Brito - Knize ws one of the worst ones recently, especially as Pesta - Puetz followed that resulted in doctor stoppage due to nose injury apparently very similar to Knize's one.You can't really solve the judges problem. At least they weeded out the draws, nobody dared to score a round 10-10 since Tomczak - Salcak I think. Keita - Paradeiser as was mentioned was scored strangely but it was not in favor of a home fighter (Paradeiser is Slovak, for the sake of argument regardless of venue let's consider Czech and Slovaks as home talent) and it was one judge scoring the fight strangely without impact on result, that seems to be an excess not trend, we get bogus split decisions in UFC every (other) week. There seems to be bit of a fault of judges weighting pressure too heavily and some guys doing better in decisions that others (Juracek - Pukac would be a good case, poor non-burger fight, but Juracek won on decision again; on the other hand Jungwirth got 2 close decisions going against him already).


 What is also a problem is dirty tactics of some fighters and rare point deductions. Not eye pokes, thank god (maybe UFC gloves are really terrible after all), but cage grabbing galore. In recent middleweight title fight Kincl faced gloves holding whole rounds, shorts grabbing, cage grabbing and even after the round attack, that was really extreme, one point only deducted, but that fighter does it habitually all the time and Oktagon didn't weed out these trash fighters yet. Refs should be better, sometimes there are mistakes due to ineptude and in rare cases one can suspect an intenr even (Penaz got help in his last fight, as the ref broke out a clinch too quickly). Usually there are not that bad to single them out for something egregious,though.
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03.26.2022 | 12:12 PM ET

Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points   |   Tied for 101st



But I came here to post this well edited video (turn on subtitles/captions as parts of it are in portugese) presenting Xavier's story (featuring Walker):


2022.03.26 2:54 PM ET

bout result

Carlos Graca defeats Michal Plesnik via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 2:55 PM ET

bout result

Roman Paulus defeats Karol Kutyła via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 3:32 PM ET

bout result

Jose Daniel Toledo Canellas defeats Panagiotis Stroumpoulis via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 3:32 PM ET

bout status update

Adas vs. Furtado Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.03.26 3:43 PM ET

bout status update

Legierski vs. Kohout Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.03.26 3:44 PM ET

bout announced

Arda Adas vs. Matouš Kohout at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2022.03.26 3:44 PM ET

bout status update

Łazarz vs. Fodor Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.03.26 3:45 PM ET

bout announced

Karol Ryšavý vs. Ebrahim Hosseinpour at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
2022.03.26 4:26 PM ET

bout result

Jakub Tichota defeats Janne Elonen-Kulmala via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 4:26 PM ET

bout result

Christian Jungwirth defeats Robert Pukač via KO/TKO at 5:00 of Round 2
2022.03.26 5:09 PM ET

bout result

Mate Sanikidze defeats David Moon via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 5:31 PM ET

bout result

Matouš Kohout defeats Arda Adas via KO/TKO at 3:30 of Round 2
2022.03.26 5:32 PM ET

bout result

Kaik Brito defeats Andrej Kalašnik via KO/TKO at 1:09 of Round 1
2022.03.26 6:12 PM ET

bout result

Rafael Xavier defeats Marcin Łazarz via 3 Round Decision
2022.03.26 6:31 PM ET

bout result

Karol Ryšavý defeats Ebrahim Hosseinpour via KO/TKO at 3:05 of Round 3
2022.03.26 7:58 PM ET

bout result

Bojan Veličković defeats Máté Kertész via 3 Round Decision
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03.26.2022 | 10:42 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 17th with 3 others

Happy for Brito after his **** robbery.

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