Topic: Alistair Overeem
Overeem Granted Conditional License for UFC 141 by NSAC
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12.13.2011 | 3:03 PM ET
I found it interesting that overeems test took six days from out of country and lesnar who is in country and used to the policies took four days longer than required. It amazes me that so much pressure and bias is put towards overeem who has never tested positive for anything and has only ever been suspected of things based on his build (which is no indicator whatsoever) where as lesnar who comes from a company that has rampant drug use and has been busted with things that were labelled peds (later released) and its an after thought to mention he was four days late.
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- Given Name: Alistair Cees Overeem
- Pro MMA Record: 47-19-0, 1 NC (Win-Loss-Draw)
- Nickname: The Demolition Man
- Current Streak: 1 Loss
- Age: 1980-05-17 | Date of Birth: 1980.05.17
- Last Fight: February 06, 2021 in UFC
- Weight Class: Heavyweight | Last Weigh-In: 255.5 lbs
- Affiliation: N/A
- Height: 6'4" (193cm) | Reach: 80.0" (203cm)
- Career Disclosed Earnings: $4,539,999 USD
- Born: Hounslow, England
- Fighting out of: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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12.13.2011 | 3:06 PM ET
12.13.2011 | 3:12 PM ET
Personally whether or not either have done illegal drugs is not what I'm going to talk about, But i don't think either are currently using and i think its unfair that its put all on AO with only and after mention about lesnar also being late.
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12.13.2011 | 3:13 PM ET
Overeem passed his blood test and his urine test won't be back for a few days. I agree with you @Pierce on most of that, but Overeem's actions made the commision "wonder" I guess. He left the country the same day he was requested to submit a test for example. This is in no way a sign or suggestion of guilt, but to a commision... it just looks weird.
EDIT: Ah.. your 2nd post beat me to it @Pierce!
* Edited at 12.13.2011, 3:14 PM ET *
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12.13.2011 | 3:22 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 3:23 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 3:35 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 3:55 PM ET
Again just for clarity i don't think either are currently juicing but if one of the two should be in **** over a late test it should be the guy with the history near and around it over the guy thats never had a failed test and has tested clean across the board in many countries and is the long standing veteran of the sport.
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12.13.2011 | 4:10 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 4:15 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 4:46 PM ET
Blood test will always trump a piss test.
@bigj are you forgetting his recent fights in strikeforces hwgp?
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12.13.2011 | 4:48 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 4:55 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 4:58 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 5:08 PM ET
Edit: I did forget about the Rogers fight though so he has been tested once since 2007.
Edit#2: Also make it known I'm not accusing Alistair of Using Peds I'm simply explaining why Alistair is getting harassed and Lesnar isn't below are the main reason's listed by the commission.
* Edited at 12.13.2011, 5:21 PM ET *
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12.13.2011 | 5:12 PM ET
1. "Supposedly Overeem left town the same day (Nov 17) as the request for the test. The blood test was not indicative of any sort of abnormality, but was not a steroid test." From the NSAC
2.Overeem said that his test on the 7th was done by his own doctor, not a testing facility.
So 3. Now adding that within 72 hours Overeem has to drop a new urine sample in a testing facility the commission finds. Has to pass that test.
* Edited at 12.13.2011, 5:15 PM ET *
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12.13.2011 | 5:18 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 6:24 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 6:28 PM ET
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12.13.2011 | 6:30 PM ET
12.13.2011 | 6:33 PM ET
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