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11.15.2021 | 6:53 PM ET

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Ortiz vs. Martin
  • Saturday 01.01.2022 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View
  • Promotion: Warriors Boxing
  • Venue: Hard Rock Hotel and Casino
  • Location: Hollywood, Florida, United States
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • TV Announcers: Brian Kenny, Lennox Lewis, Joe Goossen
  • Ring Announcer: Jimmy Lennon Jr
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Ray Flores
  • Matchmaker: Melvin Rivas, Tom Brown
  • Boxing Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Luis Ortiz  defeats  Charles Martin via KO/TKO   1:37 Round 6/12, 16:37 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Frank Sanchez  defeats  Christian Hammer via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Jonathan Rice  defeats  Michael Polite-Coffie via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Ali Eren Demirezen  defeats  Gerald Washington via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   0:27 Round 8/10, 21:27 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Viktor Faust  defeats  Iago Kiladze via KO/TKO, Left Hook, Straight Right   1:44 Round 2 of 8, 4:44 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Frank Martin  defeats  Romero Duno via KO/TKO, Pull Counter Left   2:51 Round 4/10, 11:51 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Lenier Pero  defeats  Geovany Bruzon via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   James Evans  vs.  Steven Torres Ends in a Draw, Split   4 Rounds, 12:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Alayn Limonta  defeats  Ray Barlow via KO/TKO   0:59 Round 4 of 4, 9:59 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Maliek Montgomery  defeats  Angel Luna via KO/TKO   1:59 Round 4 of 8, 10:59 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Atif Oberlton  defeats  Ernest Amuzu via KO/TKO   2:59 Round 2 of 6, 5:59 Total Bout Page

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12.31.2021 | 10:37 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Dammit I just changed them and I'm still not very confident lol. 
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12.31.2021 | 11:10 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Last thing from me does anyone know any betting odds on the Bruzon vs Pero matchup?
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12.31.2021 | 11:19 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

I believe that Bruzon is the A side for this fight and would be the slight favorite. However, I can be completely wrong in my assessment so any insight that anyone has would be very useful for us to know who would win that matchup.
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12.31.2021 | 11:25 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

The two main card fights that I highlighted and this prospect fight on the prelims are the close ones that I might switch up heading into tomorrow. Anyways happy New Years everyone and lets enjoy the first boxing event of 2022.
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12.31.2021 | 11:28 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

I cannot find any odds for that fight bud.  I have listed the odds for every fight I found, the 5 fight PPV main card and the prelim Main event, Martin Duno are the only fights with odds
This is the main site for boxing odds bud.  It's to boxing what BestFightOdds is to MMA.  If any odds are listed anywhere it's there
https://www.proboxingodds.com/


Again, like I said before, it's a super close fight.  And I find the match up kinda strange!  Both undefeated, both just moved to the USA and both are newly signed to PBC, there is no A Side!
Both have excellent amateur careers, Pero has the more decorated 1, winning Youth Olympic Gold and Cuban national titles.
Bruzon, while still a good amateur, he seems to be much more suited to the professional game.  Attack/KO style over amateur point style.

I still am note sure who wins this 1 bud, I am sticking to my guns with a Bruzon KO but I am far from certain.  If there were odds I'd say it would be close to evens bud.  There just isn't much at all to separate both men,

You're just gonna have to flip a coin!

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12.31.2021 | 11:34 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Thank you for your insight Mikey. Also, are you pretty confident in Ali and Rice getting the victory tomorrow in their respective matchups because I’m still stuck on those right now.
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12.31.2021 | 11:38 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

I switched to Demirezen basically because of youth. Washington been around for a while and 4 losses, 4 KO's. 
But, I am not confident here either!!! Like I said, Demirezen is a can crusher, another 1 of the many German based fighters who beat on Slavs!!  Also, Washington is the PBC fighter if that makes a difference, it may if it goes to decision!!

Same thing really with Rice Coffie. Coffie is the PBC guy, they will definitely want him to win because they were building him up and trying to tap into the army veteran market. But Rice did beat his ass!!!  I put the whole fight in this thread for people to have a look.
1 thing I did not like tho. After seeing the weigh in results, Rice has come in 15lbs heavier!!! Coffie also heavier but only 7lbs. But 15lbs is quite significant. I don't know tho, they are Heavyweights, sometimes I can read to much into extra detail trying to break fights down and I just confuse myself!!! Haha


You already said it yourself bud. They are the 3 closest fights on the card, can argue any of them will win

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12.31.2021 | 11:40 PM ET

More Confusion??!?!?!

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

https://www.google.com/amp/s/latinboxsports.com/2021/06/30/warriors-boxing-signs-promotional-agreements-with-undefeated-cuban-sensations-yoelvis-gomez-geovany-bruzon-and-lenier-pero/amp/



Found this article earlier and its just made this fight, Pero Bruzon, even harder to pick!

Both guys were signed together, moved to the US as part of the same team, management,????  Why are they fighting??? Oh me man, its a coin flip fight bud! 

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12.31.2021 | 11:44 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Thank you again for the help Mikey. Are you still picking Martin for tomorrow, or are you joining the Ortiz train?
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12.31.2021 | 11:45 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

And screw it I’m going back with Coffie and Washington because they’re PBC fighters lol.
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12.31.2021 | 11:49 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

When in doubt you might as well go with the fighter that the promotion is marketing and positioning to win since they will probably win on the judges cards based on it being boxing.
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01.01.2022 | 12:02 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

I think I'm sticking with the underdog pick in Martin, I THINK! Ha

Ortiz also weighed in heavy today, the heaviest of his career. May or May not be significant. But Ortiz is old as balls! He's fought for 60 seconds in over 2 years, the 1 fight was an absolute joke that the commission withheld Flores(Ortiz opp) purse until investigating because he fell over so quickly!!! So 
1. Old as Balls
2. 60 seconds vs a can since 2019
3. Career heaviest 
Also 4.  I have always thought Ortiz was over rated. He's best known for 2 losses to Wilder and his best win is, Erm, who is it? Oh yeah the mighty Bryant Jennings!!!

Yeah I'm pretty sure that I stick with Big Prince Charlie da GAWD!!! I may be wrong because Martin isn't great either(by not great he's not a top 10 Heavyweight)

Also though, picks are always subject to change!! Ha 

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01.01.2022 | 12:09 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Same with my picks Mikey lol. Happy New Years and let’s enjoy the combat sports year ahead within MMA and boxing.
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01.01.2022 | 12:12 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

Cheers bud. Same to you. 
Happy New Year 

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2022.01.01 3:22 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, January 1 at 10:00pm ET to Saturday, January 1 at 9:00pm ET
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01.01.2022 | 3:30 PM ET

i don't get the Pero-Bruzon fight either

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 255 Points   |   138th Place

You would think they would let each guy go their own way for a bit and see what comes out in the wash before they fight each other at this early point in their pro careers.  it's one of the more engaging fights on this card though
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01.01.2022 | 4:15 PM ET

Vicious New Predictions

Predictions: 6 of 6 Winners, 2 Perfect, 350 Points   |   126th Place

Sanchez vs. Hammer
I go with Frank Sanchez at -3333. He has a bonkers hammerfist. Sanchez is about to climb the cage.

Martin vs. Duno
I have a crush on Frank Martin at -1000. He has a ruthless training style. Martin will likely kindle the adversary. Fix und fertig!

Vykhryst vs. Kiladze
I have a crush on Viktor Vykhryst at -4000. He has a vicious stamina. Vykhryst can blast the cage. I bet my life on it!

Washington vs. Demirezen
I desire Ali Eren Demirezen at -260. He has a bonkers double wrist lock. Demirezen must tweak the corner man.

Rice vs. Coffie II
I am taking Jonathan Rice at -170. He has a formal tsuri-dashi. Rice won't wrestle the crowd noise.

Ortiz vs. Martin
I am sniffing Luis Ortiz at -260. He has a glamorous guillotine. Ortiz won't realign the senses. Obey my dog!

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01.01.2022 | 4:52 PM ET

First fist fights of 2022!!!

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 30th with 4 others

Loving the all Heavyweight main card... The fact this is a PPV is utter blasphemy though, it'll get like 900 buys lolololololol.....





* Edited at 01.01.2022, 4:53 PM ET *

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01.01.2022 | 5:04 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

Happy New year Matty bud. 1st fight Night of 2022!! Hopefully it's a good one, not too hopeful in a Grandad Ortiz vs Martin Da GAWD main event but there's lots of Heavy Bois so hopefully lots of swangin n bangin!!
Plus there is a couple really good prospects on the undercard. 
Frank Martin, Atif Oberlton, Big Vic Vykhryst and I'm really intrigued by the undefeated Cuban Heavyweight match up!

Let's get it! 

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01.01.2022 | 5:09 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 30th with 4 others

Hell yeah Mikey happy new year! 



The undercard is being broadcasted on FOX here in the states... Was supposed to start at 5 pm (9 minutes ago) but a Providence vs DePaul college basketball game is running a bit late. Excited to watch some fights, since the last UFC fight night theres barely been any fights to watch (except the RIZIN new year's eve show the other night and the christmas PBC card) Old HWs in a PPV main event is gunna be a chuckle, hopefully its a slugfest.

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01.01.2022 | 5:28 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

This 1st fight is great! 

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