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11.15.2021 | 6:53 PM ET

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Ortiz vs. Martin
  • Saturday 01.01.2022 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View
  • Promotion: Warriors Boxing
  • Venue: Hard Rock Hotel and Casino
  • Location: Hollywood, Florida, United States
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • TV Announcers: Brian Kenny, Lennox Lewis, Joe Goossen
  • Ring Announcer: Jimmy Lennon Jr
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Ray Flores
  • Matchmaker: Melvin Rivas, Tom Brown
  • Boxing Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Luis Ortiz  defeats  Charles Martin via KO/TKO   1:37 Round 6/12, 16:37 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Frank Sanchez  defeats  Christian Hammer via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Jonathan Rice  defeats  Michael Polite Coffie via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Ali Eren Demirezen  defeats  Gerald Washington via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage   0:27 Round 8/10, 21:27 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Viktor Vykhryst  defeats  Iago Kiladze via KO/TKO, Left Hook, Straight Right   1:44 Round 2 of 8, 4:44 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Frank Martin  defeats  Romero Duno via KO/TKO, Pull Counter Left   2:51 Round 4/10, 11:51 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Lenier Pero  defeats  Geovany Bruzon via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   James Evans  vs.  Steven Torres Ends in a Draw, Split   4 Rounds, 12:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Alayn Limonta  defeats  Ray Barlow via KO/TKO   0:59 Round 4 of 4, 9:59 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Maliek Montgomery  defeats  Angel Luna via KO/TKO   1:59 Round 4 of 8, 10:59 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Atif Oberlton  defeats  Ernest Amuzu via KO/TKO   2:59 Round 2 of 6, 5:59 Total Bout Page

Responses

2021.11.15 6:53 PM ET

bout announced

Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin
2021.11.17 8:14 PM ET

bout announced

Frank Sanchez vs. Carlos Negron
2021.11.17 8:15 PM ET

bout announced

Jonathan Rice vs. Michael Polite Coffie II
2021.11.17 8:17 PM ET

bout announced

Gerald Washington vs. Ali Eren Demirezen
2021.11.17 8:18 PM ET

bout announced

Viktor Vykhryst vs. Iago Kiladze
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12.07.2021 | 2:28 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 255 Points   |   138th Place

How the hell is this a PPV?
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12.07.2021 | 2:28 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 255 Points   |   138th Place

How the hell is this a PPV?
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12.07.2021 | 1:26 PM ET

If it was Tito Ortiz, then it should have been a PPV.

But with it being Luis Ortiz - as John McEnroe would say: You cannot be serious!

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2021.12.15 2:06 PM ET

bout announced

Frank Martin vs. Romero Duno
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12.25.2021 | 11:11 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

Ortiz vs. Martin
Charles Martin, DEC
People are awfully confident in a man who is touching 60!! Only half joking about Ortiz age! Everyone knows he's older than 42, how much is the question??? I may start the year by taking a flyer on Old Prince Charles! Like I said Ortiz is close to pensioner age and never ever forget, Martin Walks Dis Earf like a GAWD!!!!!!!

Sanchez vs. Negron
Frank Sanchez, TKO, R4
The best Cuban Heavyweight on this card and the guy who should be top 10 rated

Rice vs. Coffie II
Jonathan Rice, TKO, R8
Johnnie beat the absolute **** outta Coffie just 6 months ago, what's changed since then??? Sometimes instant rematches are different, majority of the time the results are the same.

Martin vs. Duno
Frank Martin, TKO, R7
Frank Martin is a good under the radar guy to keep an eye on. Doesn't get much attention, at the moment anyway but I think that's going to change if he has an active 2022. Real nice boxer puncher

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

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12.27.2021 | 12:15 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 180 Points   |   Tied for 153rd

Here's the algorithm I used for this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KpKQpYQm8PK4bfK4-mxwVVTr7LgINExitXx7YufVgvY/edit?usp=sharing

Should be able to view it now

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12.27.2021 | 12:16 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 180 Points   |   Tied for 153rd

Ortiz vs. Martin
Charles Martin, TKO, R8
UPSET ALERT!!!!!!!!

Sanchez vs. Negron
Carlos Negron, TKO, R5
HUGE UPSET ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I kind of try to focus on the moment, in the present. That’s humility. That’s being humble. That’s not setting no expectation. That’s going out there, enjoying the game, competing at a high level.” - Giannis Antetokounmpo"

2021.12.27 9:00 PM ET

bout announced

Lenier Pero vs. Geovany Bruzon
2021.12.27 9:02 PM ET

bout announced

James Evans vs. Steven Torres
2021.12.27 9:02 PM ET

bout announced

Ray Barlow vs. Alayn Limonta
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12.27.2021 | 9:16 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

TJ Bro, if Negron KO's Frankie Sanchez in 5 I'll, I'll, well I don't know what I'll do!!! But I will be extremely surprised and that will be the upset of the Year on the 1st day of the Year!!! Ha

Also, I looked at your document, do you take strength of schedule into consideration or just the method of victory?? 

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

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12.28.2021 | 11:55 AM ET

@Mikey1903

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 180 Points   |   Tied for 153rd

The whole breakdown is at the top of what I do.

"I kind of try to focus on the moment, in the present. That’s humility. That’s being humble. That’s not setting no expectation. That’s going out there, enjoying the game, competing at a high level.” - Giannis Antetokounmpo"

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12.28.2021 | 12:21 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

Pero vs. Bruzon
Geovany Bruzon, TKO, R4
Wierd match up!? 2 decorated Cuban amateurs, both Bangers!!! Both decent looking prospects. Hmmm, not very boxing like, not complaining tho! I'll tell you that Pero has the better amateur record Multi time Cuban Heavyweight Champ, wins over Co Main eventer Frank Sanchez, over 200 ammy wins(BoxRec has 100 but they don't record every amateur fight) , Bruzon, IMO, has the better pro style, also remember Yoelvis who wrecked Clay Collard on Xmas night? Well Bruzon is from his gym, same management, trainer and style. I'm very interested in this fight, hope it stays together!

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

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12.28.2021 | 12:22 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

Sorry TJ, I missed that!!
Hope you've cracked the code!! 

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

2021.12.28 3:03 PM ET

bout status update

Sanchez vs. Negron Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2021.12.28 3:03 PM ET

bout announced

Frank Sanchez vs. Christian Hammer
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12.28.2021 | 3:48 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 180 Points   |   Tied for 153rd

I guess we'll never know now

* Edited at 12.28.2021, 3:48 PM ET *

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12.28.2021 | 4:57 PM ET

Jonnie Rice vs. Michael Coffie 1

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place


PBC posted the full fight of Coffie vs. Rice the other day.

May help anybody who has still to make up their mind about how this rematch will go.  Rice was a late replacement, I think 2 weeks?  Coffie was given his 1st PBC Fox main event as he was building some hype after a string of KO's, especially the highlight reel Uppercut KO vs 17-0  Darmani Rock.  Plus they were pushing the fact that he's a former Marine, most be a Veteran fan base??

Jonnie Rice was an established journeyman/opponent for rising prospects.  Always gave guys a good test, travelled all over the World from USA, Canada, Mexico even Australia!  would beat you if you weren't at a certain level.  He put on a career best performance here. 1 of the biggest boxing upsets of 2021, I think top 10? He was anywhere from +750 to +1000

Can he do it again????  I think so, do

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

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12.28.2021 | 5:38 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

I agree with your assessment Mikey, but I just feel like Coffie is going to be well prepared this time around. 
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12.28.2021 | 5:39 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Also I’m surprised that you picked Martin and Washington since I thought that you would have Ali and Ortiz instead.
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12.28.2021 | 5:52 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

I switched from Washington to his opponent since I feel like Washington might lose. I might change my mind again though.
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12.28.2021 | 5:57 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

All my picks are subject to change!! Ha

But at this point in time I believe Rice does it again!  
The records on paper don't show it but Rice is a far better boxer than Coffie. Also, the confidence that 1st fight will have instilled in Rice and the opposite for Coffie makes me feel like the same thing happens. 
I think Coffie best chance is landing a power shot which, its Heavyweight, good chance that happens

I do not rate Demirezen at all! His record is a classic "looks good on paper" boxing special!!! The guys he has beaten with the good looking record, Milacic, Redzovic, Rashid are all crap!!! They are guys who win fights in small halls in Germany, Bosnia, Latvia, Serbia etc.
Of course, I'm not saying Gerald Washington is a World beater, he isn't!!!  He's a former American Footballer (not sure if he was NFL or just high level College?) who came to boxing late. So he's athletic, quick and powerful but doesn't have the technical boxing base.  He has a great KO win over Helenius that is making me favour him, again tho, I may change my mind.

As for the main event. It's the same thing, I'm not convinced in either guy? So I sometimes just jump on the underdog!! 

* Edited at 12.28.2021, 6:00 PM ET *

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12.28.2021 | 6:04 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

Thank you for the insight Mikey. I’ll go with Washington now since he’s the PBC fighter 😂
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12.28.2021 | 8:15 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

No worries.  Just Don't put it on me if Washington loses tho!!!! Ha

"The only difference between street fighting and boxing is there a ref there stopping me from killing you". Marvin Hagler

2021.12.28 8:19 PM ET

bout announced

Maliek Montgomery vs. Angel Luna
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12.28.2021 | 8:20 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 440 Points   |   101st Place

True but you’re the boxing genius on Tapology Mikey. 
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12.28.2021 | 8:22 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 590 Points   |   18th Place

I don't know about that mate! Yeah, sometimes I have managed to get some big underdogs but I have made some dumb ass predictions too!!! Haha 

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