UFC Fight Night: Hall vs. Strickland

The official Tapology discussion thread for the event!

I go to the gym with the biggest hard on and spot guys 

standing up to being bullied because of my gender identity is not meaningless.

@flying. Thought I was the only one.

also @thesnake101 just finish the sentence you were too scared to in your post's title. if your going to be transphobic, at least be honest about like the rest of these guys

How come we banned @fishrat for bringing politics and off topic posts into the threads and @batwomen gets to act bat**** crazy. RIP fishrat

The title was supposed a switcheroo.

I say it's meaningless because of the setting of this discussion. You can't expect to have meaningful, civil discourse on a forum, let alone one dedicated to a sport of people bashing each other's heads. You're honestly just wasting your time and only souring your own mood by still engaging.

You need not reply to every single comment that goes against your beliefs, regardless of how inflammatory it may be.

The bat symbol is really powerful.

Talking about the devil, Darren Till just uploaded some video on his Instagram on how his meme about transgenders got reported to the police in the UK and some ******** with a local newspaper. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CR6_Il-BKvL/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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I am really looking forward to the Buys De Paula fight

Just the way @batwomen is going after small details of rules and directly pushing @greg. It really does seem like a @fishrat alternative account. I said it before. The best trolls and the ones who convince you they are not trolling and get you all angry and fired up. @fishrat would take extreme liberal ideas and shove them down your throat to convince you how dumb they are. Master Troll. Level 10

What s up with the the transgender Karen? *** happened tapology

@CountryMac I think it has something to do with the chemicals they are putting in the water

.............. what? I'm back on a thread relative topic?

Who the **** is anybody

Benoit vs. Adashev
Ryan Benoit, DEC
Lol

de Paula vs. Buys
Cheyanne Buys, DEC
Worst fight on the worst card

Here let me lighten the tension Sean looks like Shogun Rua and Clive Owen were put in a blender then re constituted poorly.
Or maybe an Alien experiment to make a pride/movie star hybrid.. 

OK, I don't normally weigh in on this sort of thing but seeing as I've recently received follows and am now following both @Batwoman and @ZoomerBet, I felt obliged to at least give my opinion on this issue. 


Transgender women are indeed women and should be respected as such. So Fallon Fox should be referred to a woman in terms of the pronouns. Having said that, as much as I care about labelling people's genders correctly, I care more about fighter safety and fair fights in MMA and other combat sports. I would love to see transgender women compete with cis-women on an equal standing as long as the fight was fair. The trouble is that sports science isn't quite at the level where we can completely equalise the physiological differences between transgender women and cis-women. Although there are ways of reducing the levels of testosterone in transgender women, a study by the British Journal of Sports Medicine found that transgender women still retained some physical advantages over cis-women. That study was just looking at the testosterone levels in transgender women and didn't take into account other physiological differences such as the larger bone mass and the naturally larger body frame of transgender women. The only way these can be changed is if the gender transition starts before puberty which in Fallon Fox's case, it didn't. Puberty is the last main stage of physical development and this is where the differences become fixed long term and unfortunately, we simply aren't able to completely reverse puberty at this moment in time. Puberty is the very reason why women's sports are a protected category.


How this relates to Fallon Fox and MMA:

If this were just a non-contact sport where nobody was in any real danger, then I'd have no problem with it as I don't really mind too much if someone has a slight advantage to score more points in game but this is combat sports where people can and do get seriously hurt. The stakes in combat sports are potentially life threatening and as much as I respect Fallon Fox for her bravery to come out as transgender and support transgender athletes, I cannot condone people getting seriously hurt by fighting in unfair fights. There's a huge difference between coming 2nd in a sprint race with only a silver medal for consolation and spending months rehabilitating from a severe injury that could have a negative impact on your health for the rest of your life. Maybe in the future if sports science advances to the point of being able to completely override every single aspect that differentiates men from women then the issue should be revisited but at the moment, we simply aren't that far advanced yet.


As for my personal responses to @ZoomerBet and @Batwoman:

@ZoomerBet I certainly see your point about the Fallon Fox situation but would it kill you just to tone the rhetoric down a little bit? You're welcome to express those opinions and I agree with you on some of the points but the tone you said them in could certainly come across as disrespectful. 

@Batwoman I applaud you for your bravery to stand up for transgender rights in an MMA forum and I certainly don't want to discourage you from doing that but again as I said to @ZoomerBet, maybe not being quite so militant in your approach to it might open the door a bit further for civil discussion on these issues. 


In conclusion, this is a very important subject and it should be discussed and dodging the discussion will do more harm than good but if we are going to continue this discussion in this thread then I'm sure I'm not the only one who would greatly appreciate it if you only entered this discussion with the intention of respectfully raising new points that haven't been considered already or to politely agree or disagree with what has already been said. If you are joining this debate with the intention of "winning" the argument then you are going into it with the wrong intention and I certainly am not trying to "end" or "win" this issue with this post and the only reason I posted this was due to the fact I'm following both @ZoomerBet and @Batwoman and because of @Batwomen's comment on my wall, I felt that just sticking my head in the sand on this issue would be the worst thing to do.

I'm starting to talk myself into Nicco Montano being a lock. She won TUF with her wrestling and she's fighting a woman who can't fight off her back. Seems like a simple linear matchup. Please talk me out of it if I'm about to make a huge mistake.

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Thats remarkably unfunny Mr. Jeffords