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02.25.2021 | 12:51 PM ET

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UFC 263
Bout   Info
Israel Adesanya   vs.   Marvin Vettori   Confirmed   5 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Deiveson Figueiredo   vs.   Brandon Moreno   Confirmed   5 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Paul Craig   vs.   Jamahal Hill   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Demian Maia   vs.   Belal Muhammad   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Leon Edwards   vs.   Nate Diaz   Confirmed   5 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Carlos Felipe   vs.   Jake Collier   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Fares Ziam   vs.   Luigi Vendramini   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Hakeem Dawodu   vs.   Movsar Evloev   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Karol Rosa   vs.   Sijara Eubanks   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Lauren Murphy   vs.   Joanne Calderwood   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Matt Frevola   vs.   Frank Camacho   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Drew Dober   vs.   Brad Riddell   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page
Steven Peterson   vs.   Chase Hooper   Confirmed   3 x 5 Minute Rounds Bout Page

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04.27.2021 | 12:17 AM ET

Israel Adesanya   vs.   Marvin Vettori 


Vettori, Dec.




There's only one question that need be asked when trying to determine a winner here: Can Vettori execute effective chain wrestling to win rounds/get the fight to his wheelhouse where he can possibly get a TKO finish through GNP? Well, let's try and make sense of that possibility:


Marvin Vettori has the second highest TD rate of anyone Adesanya has ever faced--the first being Brunson. He has the highest TD accuracy percentage of anyone Adesanya has faced, including Yoel Romero. Adesanya has the highest TDD percentage of anyone Vettori has faced at 86%. We can break down what this means a little by analyzing the first fight.


The first fight


Was definitely not a blowout for Adesanya, and having rewatched it a couple of hours ago, I am confident that Vettori has improved far more than Adesanya has. Israel is the same fighter he was during their first encounter. Vettori is not.


The first two round were not competitive.  Vettori was kept at the end of Izzy's range and although he did land some counters/combos, they were rolled for the most part, and he definitely got the worst of it.


However, the third--which is where things get interesting in terms of breaking down their second bout--was a different deal. Vettori basically figured out that Adesanya is far less dangerous in intimate space than he is through the middle/outside, and where before he would stop advancing when izzy threw heat, he held his ground and took steps forward in high guard. This really ****** Adesanya's **** up. He started eating short 1-2'S, got cut-off, and became open to diving single legs.


Vettori successfully took Izzy down, and would have kept him there without too much trouble had Herb Dean, who is a corrupt *************, not badgered him with 'Let's work'! And threatened to stand them up basically 4 seconds after Vettori passed guard--which incidentally he was able to do like a hot knife through butter. Israel attempted a sweep and didn't get close to hitting it. Dean continued to harangue Vettori whenever he secured dominant position moving forward basically instantly. It was horrendous. Don't believe me? Rewatch the fight.


I'm going to take Vettori in this one and hope Dean isn't adjudicating. I think Vettori learned what he needed to from the first fight, and has improved his chain wrestling, grappling and cardio to the point that he's going to do enough to win on points through control and top damage. I don't see a finish. And new.







* Edited at 04.27.2021, 12:22 AM ET *

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04.29.2021 | 1:48 PM ET

Prediction Comments

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Adesanya vs. Vettori II
Israel Adesanya
I like Vettori but I hate this fight. Allowing champions to play matchmaker is a very slippery slope, once they have the power to pick fights, the structure of the division will collapse.

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05.02.2021 | 7:31 PM ET

Prediction Comments

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Adesanya vs. Vettori II
Israel Adesanya, TKO, R3
adesanya is the greatest

Figueiredo vs. Moreno II
Deiveson Figueiredo, DEC
figueiredo is gonna win the rematch

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05.02.2021 | 11:14 PM ET

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Whittaker is still on the US half of his quarantine, in a hotel room with two black eyes playing video games. Feels like it was kind of a bum move to even make him an offer. He's clearly not gonna be ready to turn around that quick, but I'm sure he didn't want to turn it down. For someone who only ever shows up and performs, doesn't it seem like Dana kinda jerks him around?

Adesanya by Decision. I feel like Vettori is going to have a false confidence going for takedowns after that's how Jan won it. But I see Izzy defending the takedowns and winning the striking exchanges just like the first fight.

Figgy by KO, later on like the 3rd or 4th. I think we saw the worst Figueiredo last time. Tried to cut and fight again way too soon, got food poisoning, gassed late in the fight, and still would have won if not for the point deduction. I think remove all those variables, he just comes in and goes to work.

Muhammad by Decision. Feels like a gimme for Belal after a bad beat last time, right? He's gonna piece Maia up.

Hill by KO. Just can't give up a freak submission.

Hooper by Submission because why not?
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05.03.2021 | 5:20 PM ET

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Peterson vs. Hooper
Steven Peterson, TKO, R2
if Hooper hasn't fixed his stand up I think he's getting finished

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2021.05.03 11:30 PM ET

bout announced

Leon Edwards vs. Nate Diaz at 170 lbs (77.1 kg)
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05.04.2021 | 1:28 AM ET

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Edwards vs. Diaz
Leon Edwards, TKO, R3
this card is officially insane ***

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05.04.2021 | 4:56 AM ET

Predictions: 13 of 13 Pending   |   Tied for 1st with 383 others

Diaz vs Leon has to be the last non title fight if it’s 5 Rounds right?

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05.04.2021 | 4:02 PM ET

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Adesanya vs. Vettori II
Marvin Vettori, DEC
After a chess match for 25 minutes, Vettori wins a clear cut decision with takedowns and pressure while Israel lands more on the feet.

Figueiredo vs. Moreno II
Brandon Moreno, DEC
Hard rematch to predict. I say Deiveson dominates the first 2 and maybe gets a knockdown, but then he struggles with Moreno in the last 3 after gassing and Moreno uses clean boxing to steal a close rematch that isn’t nearly as fun as the first one.

Craig vs. Hill
Jamahal Hill, TKO, R1
Paul gets caught and wobbles bad and Hill finishes with a standing TKO.

Maia vs. Muhammad
Belal Muhammad, DEC
Belal has too much volume for Maia to handle and I think Demian gets hit with a spinning backfist late in the fight and barely survives.

Edwards vs. Diaz
Nate Diaz, TKO, R4
Leon will piece Diaz up for 4 rounds and then Diaz will throw an overhand right that grazes and cuts Edwards and he wins with a BS stoppage and it gets rebooked for August.

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05.05.2021 | 3:37 PM ET

Prediction Comments

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Edwards vs. Diaz
Leon Edwards, DEC
I'll be surprised if Leon finishes Nate. I mean Nate is basically that cat Denis got when he was looking for a junk yard dog on sunny.

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05.05.2021 | 7:39 PM ET

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I think Nate's chin got overrated a bit from those Conor fights. Conor clearly lacks the one punch KO power he had at FW in the higher weight classes. Yes he did legitimately drop and hurt Nate, but my point is that I think Leon can do way worse to him. I think Leon can hit him consistently for all 5 rounds because of way better cardio than Conor, he can hit him harder than Conor, and we have to come to terms that Nate has taken a bunch of damage over his career. I think Frankie Edgar showed us that when father time comes knocking on your door, it can be a pretty brutal way to go out when the most people can say about you going into a fight is "he still has a solid chin despite the wars". I think Nate fighting legit guys like Leon will only get him hurt and quite possibly slept. The Diaz brothers should avoid every divisions T15 imo, they're way too inactive and their styles are way too one dimensional for the top guys these days.

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05.05.2021 | 8:04 PM ET

It's just a really bad matchup for nate
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05.05.2021 | 8:05 PM ET

I genuinely think the trilogy with conor will happen too at some point before they both retire 
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05.06.2021 | 8:29 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 13 of 13 Pending   |   Tied for 1st with 383 others

Edwards vs. Diaz
Leon Edwards, DEC
This is a waste of time for Edwards, who should be fighting the top 5 of the division right now, and I don't think it will be fun to watch at all. Nate will eat shots and takedowns for 3 or 4 rounds until his face lets him down again. Late TKO or clear decision for Edwards. Seriously tho, Nate Diaz vs Cerrone 2, or vs a Carlos Condit, or a Matt Brown would have been way better. If he somehow wins this (by submission ?) I will eat my words, but this is really an undeserved opportunity, almost worst than the Poirier rematch for McGregor. Maybe if they both loses, the trilogy could finally happen ?

Peterson vs. Hooper
Steven Peterson, TKO, R2
Peterson may not be the best fighter of the UFC, but he is tough and durable, relentless with his offense, with dangerous stand up skills. Hooper can drag him to the ground and sub him with his elite JJB talent of course, but his body looks really awkward and weak, he's slow, doesn't move very well, and can't defend at all, so I think Peterson gets it done late in rounds 2 or 3.

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05.06.2021 | 11:40 AM ET

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Edwards vs. Diaz
Leon Edwards, DEC
If Leon Edwards was facing Nate Diaz 10 years ago, I would give Nate a good chance at winning, but he is washed up now.

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