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UFC 260: Miocic vs. N'Gannou 2

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01.02.2021 | 3:30 PM ET

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UFC 260
  • Saturday 03.27.2021 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • MMA Bouts: 10
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Bout   Info
Francis NGannou   defeats   Stipe Miocic   via KO/TKO, Left Hook   0:52 Round 2 of 5, 5:52 Total Bout Page
Vicente Luque   defeats   Tyron Woodley   via Submission, D'arce Choke   3:56 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Sean O'Malley   defeats   Thomas Almeida   via KO/TKO, Counter Left   3:52 Round 3 of 3, 13:52 Total Bout Page
Miranda Maverick   defeats   Gillian Robertson   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jamie Mullarkey   defeats   Khama Worthy   via KO/TKO, Left Hook to Ground and Pound   0:46 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Alonzo Menifield   defeats   Fabio Cherant   via Submission, Von Flue Choke   1:11 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Abubakar Nurmagomedov   defeats   Jared Gooden   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Michał Oleksiejczuk   defeats   Modestas Bukauskas   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Omar Morales   defeats   Shane Young   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Marc-André Barriault   defeats   Abu Azaitar   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   4:56 Round 3 of 3, 14:56 Total Bout Page

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03.25.2021 | 6:43 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points   |   Tied for 4144th

Be Humble

* Edited at 03.25.2021, 6:44 PM ET *

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03.25.2021 | 7:04 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 2 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 4214th

Miocic vs. N'Gannou II
Francis N'Gannou, TKO, R1
the Stipe we saw in Stipe vs DC III three years after his fight vs Ngannou is different. 3 years out of his prime, multiple eye surgeries. stipe has spent past 3 years training and pacing himself for a 42 year old 5'10" stocky wrestler. ngannou has been training for the stipe rematch. they're in a significantly smaller cage. not a fortune teller but these things do not add up in Stipe's favor imo.

Woodley vs. Luque
Vicente Luque, TKO, R3
weight cut to 170 is too much for woodley at his age. he's here to collect another check

Almeida vs. O'Malley
Thomas Almeida, TKO, R1
sean's boxing defense looked suspect against wineland till wineland decided to drop hands

Robertson vs. Maverick
Gillian Robertson, SUB, R1
maverick's grappling looked suspect against pearl gonzales

Mullarkey vs. Worthy
Khama Worthy, DEC
mullarkey is damaged goods but so is khama

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03.25.2021 | 7:11 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 2 of 3 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 4267th

Miocic vs. N'Gannou II
Stipe Miocic, DEC
It will be like their first meeting. Stipe will fight smart and use his clinch and wrestling while Francis is swinging overhands from his waist.

Woodley vs. Luque
Vicente Luque, DEC
In my eyes Woodley is done and will not do anything in this fight similar to his last three. Luque will be too much across 3 rounds.

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03.25.2021 | 7:31 PM ET

Xconchris

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2584th

You could just see in francis eyes he knows how hard this fight is gonna be to win this time because he thought he was gonna steamroll stipe the first fight and got a tutorial in wrestling and boxing for 25 minutes 

* Edited at 03.25.2021, 7:59 PM ET *

Hippie
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03.25.2021 | 7:36 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 210th

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03.25.2021 | 8:24 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 3353rd

Miocic vs. N'Gannou II
Stipe Miocic, TKO, R4
How can the reigning consensus greatest Heavyweight Champ of all time 50-44 a guy and be an underdog in the rematch when the guy hasn't shown anything different from the 1st fight???? Weird.

Gooden vs. Nurmagomedov
Jared Gooden, TKO, R3
A bum baka Bum kar!!!

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FireFist45
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03.25.2021 | 8:27 PM ET

T Woodley can't blame distractions in all 3 losses

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 2858th

Yes T Wood - was going thru things from a divorce or whatever relationship issues he's been in...  or battling back injuries such as torn rib cartilage injury, broken hand, shoulder and torn bicep ligaments -- 
or being distracted from movie cameos and rap concerts.  

All of that is in the past right...???   He can now focus .... back up to cage and throw that overhand right like he normally does.  RIGHT ?? hahha

Or is there a blueprint 3 times on T-Woodley  ?
I like how the experts think T-Woodley will rise from the ashes to win. This is awesome !!   I love it!!

* Edited at 03.25.2021, 8:27 PM ET *

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03.25.2021 | 9:12 PM ET

Menifield’s Replacement

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 3353rd

I’ll be honest, I don’t follow the regional scene very often, but I always am sure to watch tape on a newcomer before betting on a fight. I gotta say, Fabio ain’t bad, but he’s still rough around the edges. He might have an edge on the ground and his boxing is solid, but he has a bad tendency of using cage blocks a little too much, and gets caught in submission attempts on occasion. Alonzo ain’t perfect neither, but he’s certainly more experienced and proven dangerous on the feet. I also don’t know how badly the weight cut is going to affect Fabio.

With all do respect though, I hope he sticks around whether he wins or loses. Seems like a cool guy.

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Erison
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03.25.2021 | 9:41 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1418th

On one hand, I get the logic. You can only take so many punches from a guy like Francis before he finds the right one. But on the other hand... citation needed that Francis has improved his game. He looks exactly the same as before the first fight. He starched Arlovski and Overeem in 90 seconds each going into that fight. He still throws wild loopy sidearm punches. And we haven't seen improved wrestling or cardio. Guessing that it's there is just that, a guess.

The first fight wasn't just a fight Stipe won. It was a perfect blueprint. He showed he was not only better, but that he had completely figured out Francis' game. No reason to think he's not going in there to do it again. Early takedowns, lateral movement, survive the early onslaught with counter punching, then aggressive clinching and boxing later.

By all means, put some prop bets on Francis by KO, but Stipe ought to be the favorite and majority vote on here. 
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03.25.2021 | 11:42 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3056th

Or the blueprint on woodley requires wrestling which luque can't. Line is off
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03.25.2021 | 11:44 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 3056th

Fabio is from my gym. His path is to survive first round and get Alonzo tired. Short notice yes but he just got out of camp few weeks ago so he's in shape. 
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03.26.2021 | 12:22 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1539th

When was the last time Woodley had a wrestling gameplan, A decade ago. Vicente has good takedown defence so it most likely end up on the feet. I’m more worried of Vicente eating an Overhand tbh 

* Edited at 03.26.2021, 1:28 AM ET *

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03.26.2021 | 12:49 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 435 Points   |   Tied for 1402nd

Mullarkey vs. Worthy
Jamie Mullarkey, TKO, R3
going for the gusto mullarkey tko round 3

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03.26.2021 | 12:57 AM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 435 Points   |   Tied for 1402nd

Robertson vs. Maverick
Miranda Maverick, TKO, R2
maverick by tko in round number 2 she'll need to finish it then the longer the fight goes the more advantage roberstson will have

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03.26.2021 | 1:18 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 385 Points   |   Tied for 2165th

The thing with Woodley though is that if your last 3 opponents used the same strategy to beat you by spamming takedowns, why wouldn't you learn to do the same thing against a guy you have a wrestling advantage over?

No need to stand and trade with Luque.  Just clinch him up against the cage like you did to Till and then aim for the takedown.  Yes, it will be a boring fight but you get the W and get yourself back to winning or else he could face being released from the UFC if he loses this one.


* Edited at 03.26.2021, 3:09 AM ET *

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03.26.2021 | 4:08 AM ET

In May 2019, Tyron Woodley was diagnosed with Chronic Arthritis in one of his hands

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 2056th


This has a lot to do with Woodley's rapid decline after losing the championship.

The arthritis greatly affected his ability to close his hand and grip. thus reducing his reach, his ability to make takedowns, the number of punches thrown and the force they carry.
If we add the loss of confidence after 3 dominant losses in a row and the fact that Woodley is practically a half-time fighter (for the time he uses in his music recordings and other projects) this is a recipe for disaster against a Luque who is at 100% of his physical abilities and that he has a better momentum during the pandemic (2 completions against Price and Brown).

Maybe the co-main event spotlight at a pay-per-view is the motivation Woodley needs to show why he was once the welterweight champion, but a standing first round as disastrous as the one he had vs. Durinho Burns would be lapidary for his intention to return to the top.

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03.26.2021 | 5:56 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points   |   Tied for 4144th

Robertson vs. Maverick
Miranda Maverick, TKO, R3
Maverick all the way!

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03.26.2021 | 6:02 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 789th

Is Ngannou better now than the first time they fought ?
Probably not (I still think he will be more mesured, patient, and careful this time, and that he's more used to catch takedowns with uppercuts à la Derrick Lewis).


He's probably not much better. But he doesn't have to be better to win. He just have to land one shot clean.

I think some people here doesn't understand that Miocic was just one shot away from going to sleep in the first two rounds. He was rocked multiple times and his face was a spectacular mess after the fight, although he just got hit like two or three times by Ngannou going backwards.
The fact Miocic was able to survive (and win) the first time can be attribuated to his iron chin of course (but age will be an interesting factor here), to his good footwork and head movement (he still ate one or two uppercuts), to his fight IQ (shoot for takedowns at any cost everytime Ngannou is getting too wild), AND because Ngannou was unusually wild and impatient.
I know everybody has the Rozenstruik charge in mind, but he knew he was facing a kickboxer. He's usually (a little) more patient against capable wrestlers : he can take his time a little bit and even be a mesured and technical striker if he wants to (seriously, just rewatch the first Blaydes fight)..

So now of course he just has 1 or 2 rounds to catch and finish Stipe before being complletely useless again, but 8 or 10 minutes is a long time to survive in a small cage like that.

I think it's a very hard fight to predict.
Everybody knows it can be a wild KO for Ngannou in round 1 or 2, or a 5 rounds domination by Stiocip. It can also be a few knocdowns by Ngannou early and a comeback by Miocic for an interesting decision with plenty of 10-8 rounds for each.
Ngannou can also be gunshy again like in the Lewis fight, and Miocic afraid to engage, for the 5th boring main event in a row after Gané-Rozenstruik, Jan-Adesanya, Edwards-Belal, and Brunson-Holland.

I still kinda expects a devastating Ngannou KO, but who knows for sure.

Oh and by the way nobody talks about Ngannou's chin, but he took a hard beating while being completely exhausted in the first fight, some very hard shots clean in the mug  (and we all know Miocic hits HARD), but amazingly enough, Ngannou never really got rocked. Impressive.

Anyway, this is fascinating rematch against two really nice guys, and may the best man win. Pure athletism and unhuman power vs Veteran fight IQ, great cardio and well rounded technique. Can't wait !

Have a great day everybody.

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03.26.2021 | 6:44 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 1960th

@blaydes be careful giving out gym strategies. Never know whos lurking for the other team! Or maybe Fabio already stated his strategy, what the hell do i know.

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03.26.2021 | 7:19 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 435 Points   |   Tied for 1402nd

Bukauskas vs. Oleksiejczuk
Michał Oleksiejczuk, DEC
lay the chalk with the fav. if the odds were a little bigger on the dog i'd say go that way.

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