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12.21.2020 | 1:13 PM ET

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UFC on ABC 2
  • Saturday 04.10.2021 at 11:30 AM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ABC | Prelims: ESPN+
  • Name: UFC on ABC 2: Vettori vs. Holland
  • Also Known As: UFC Vegas 23
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Daniel Cormier, Dominick Cruz
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Interviews: Daniel Cormier | Backstage: Megan Olivi
  • TV Ratings: 859,000 avg. viewers (377k ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Marvin Vettori   defeats   Kevin Holland   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Arnold Allen   defeats   Sodiq Yusuff   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Julian Marquez   defeats   Sam Alvey   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:07 Round 2 of 3, 7:07 Total Bout Page
Mackenzie Dern   defeats   Nina Nunes   via Submission, Armbar   4:48 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Daniel Rodriguez   defeats   Mike Perry   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Joe Solecki   defeats   Jim Miller   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Scott Holtzman   via KO/TKO, Punch to Ground and Pound   1:22 Round 2 of 3, 6:22 Total Bout Page
John Makdessi   defeats   Ignacio Bahamondes   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jarjis Danho   defeats   Yorgan De Castro   via KO/TKO, Right Hook   3:02 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jack Shore   defeats   Hunter Azure   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Luis Saldaña   defeats   Jordan Griffin   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Da Un Jung   defeats   William Knight   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Impa Kasanganay   defeats   Sasha Palatnikov   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:26 Round 2 of 3, 5:26 Total Bout Page

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Thesnake101
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03.30.2021 | 6:51 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1580th

Well, what Holland has going for him is that he doesn't have to cut weight, didn't suffer any superficial damage (Brunson has cuts) and has nothing to lose. Derek is aiming for the Costa fight so I could see him refusing a dangerous short-notice fight.

Either way, I hope we still see Marvin fight.
dirtyreg22
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03.30.2021 | 7:34 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

De Castro vs. Danho
Yorgan De Castro, TKO, R1
de castro via better striking should fine that ko shot early in the fight

Fattie0
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03.30.2021 | 7:46 PM ET

1. Brunson never fights on short notice. 
2. Holland could've won & is a way better opponent than Till for Verotti.
3. This is a prospect card. Not many interesting fights compared to last three Cards. It's like a showcase.  Only real "Live Dog" are Yussef, Ansarov, & Palatnikov. The rest are competitive but not even close.
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03.30.2021 | 8:41 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 6 Perfect, 600 Points   |   Tied for 886th

Please God let the UFC make Holland vs Vettori. Vettori gonna KO Holland and wipe that stupid smile right off his face. Holland will feel the difference in Power and Striking ability and he will probably stop laughing right before he goes to sleep. Vettori is a dangerously under rated fighter with some good wrestling and big power. I did like Holland before his last fight before he became the joke of the UFC

"Dont take life too serious, you will never make it out alive."

Hippie
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03.30.2021 | 8:48 PM ET

^

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 5 Perfect, 640 Points   |   Tied for 537th

Hallelujah @ Xcon❗️  Preach it brother!!!
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03.30.2021 | 9:43 PM ET

@fattie0

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 300 Points   |   Tied for 3091st

If Holland coulda just simply won why did instead just lose 5 rounds ? 

"“Who ain’t got Jiu Jitsuuu” "

Thesnake101
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03.30.2021 | 10:40 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1580th

He obviously lost a bet.
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03.30.2021 | 10:47 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 300 Points   |   Tied for 3091st

Yeah that salt is unmistakable lol 

"“Who ain’t got Jiu Jitsuuu” "

Millershades
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03.30.2021 | 11:03 PM ET

Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points   |   Tied for 3435th


Sam Alvey   vs.   Julian Marquez 
How long for UFC is Sam, a man
of I.Q barely five and three, whose fists
like turds of tantrum chimpanzees
are dumbly flung with hope to land?

To take him to his happy place
chuck his chin and ask 'who's Sam'?
as spittle flies he'll scream 'I am'
And before you've offered up protest

He's **** into his very hand
and made with it to paint your face!
And should you offer to decline
like Bonobo swinging on the vine
he'll whoop and beat his chest!

As Gingers go he's very nice
but task him to a puzzle book
for children ages seven, eight
you'll see the glazed familiar look
of fishes laid on shaven ice.

For what's behind that gawp of Sam?
A place of very little, there. The need
for meat, some dust and air?
Circus tunes and dancing bears?

He'll likely go into the void
when Marquez catches chin or neck
a spastic hairy ginger mess who'll fade
to black just like George
 
And what can he retire to,
with mind not greater than a yam's?
A staple of the petting zoo, to like
domesticated kangaroo take pellets
meekly from the feeder's hands?

But spare a thought for Mrs Sam!
Who's downing whiskey dram-by-dram
and teasing feces from the hair
of children who are bricks of spam

because they have been sired by Sam
who just looks on without a care
and sat upon his freckled thumb.
There's simply nothing to be done:
She's mated an orangutan!

* Edited at 03.31.2021, 12:59 AM ET *

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Erison
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03.31.2021 | 1:00 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 2250th

If it's the difference between a fight and none, Holland is a great choice. And what an opportunity for him, to lose such a weird fight in such a humiliating way. The chance to immediately get back the momentum. Though Vettori is probably better than Brunson to begin with. At least Vettori will stand and trade, which gives Holland a shot.
TARTARA
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03.31.2021 | 1:03 AM ET

⬆️⬆️⬆️

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 1813th

Spot On 👍!

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Speedo424
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03.31.2021 | 2:12 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1580th

Honestly, this cancellation no longer surprises me. 

HOW IN GOD'S NAME ARE YOU STUPID ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING THAT COULD BREAK YOUR COLLARBONE NOT EVEN TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM YOUR BIGGEST FIGHT YET?

This is now Till's 4th cancelled fight in the UFC and 9th overall, out of which every single one (with the exception of the Bobby fight, which was rescheduled) was cancelled because of him and his injuries.

It's crazy. Vettori is going to be pissed about this, he really doesn't like when others waste his time. 

Any replacement for this fight is going to be essentially appreciated, but I don't think Holland will get this chance after his "mental breakdown". If he does, he will just get outgrappled for 5 rounds again. The other guy I'm watching is Strickland, because he does have a fight coming up shortly, so he could act as replacement. With that being said, I wouldn't pick anyone over Vettori, infact the only fight I think should be made for Vettori after this one is the rematch with Adesanya.
DCpredictions
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03.31.2021 | 3:40 AM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 2793rd

Saldaña vs. Griffin
Jordan Griffin, SUB, R2
Not much tape I can find on saldana what I did find was all kickboxing so it's sorta a guess that griffin can find a sub he's pretty active ly looking for one in the tape I watched his hands don't look terrible his gas tank worries me but also haven't seen saldana in a really high place fight like him, his dwcs fight was sorta high pace but not really. If you got some links to fights with saldana wrestling let me know. Might come down to seeing these 2 at wiegh in

dirtyreg22
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03.31.2021 | 11:53 AM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

Miller vs. Solecki
Joe Solecki, SUB, R3
miller has 3 career losses by guillotine and rear naked chokes. solecki has 7 of his 10 wins by first round submission. i think it'll take him longer to sink it in against a grizzled vet like miller.

dirtyreg22
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03.31.2021 | 12:07 PM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

Dumont vs. Malecki
Norma Dumont, DEC
dumont is 3-0 on fights that go to decision and i dont believe bea malecki will win her 5th fight in a row.

dirtyreg22
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03.31.2021 | 1:26 PM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

Perry vs. Rodriguez
Daniel Rodriguez, SUB, R3
i think d rod will be in a better mental place. not so sure which mike perry shows up. size advantage for d rod should lead to a late stoppage by submission after some heavy ground and pound.

dirtyreg22
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03.31.2021 | 3:19 PM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

Makdessi vs. Bahamondes
John Makdessi, TKO, R2
give me the plus money on makdessi great work rate got plenty of pop on his punches and more experience would be a good underdog play for sure.

Erison
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03.31.2021 | 5:26 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 2250th

Yeah I gotta know what kind of heavy impact work Till was doing to break a collarbone this close to the fight. He probably ought to be in weight cut mode. Unless it was a freak accident, maybe he ought to start looking at Max Holloway's new philosophy. No sparring, minimal damage. 
Millershades
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03.31.2021 | 6:01 PM ET

Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points   |   Tied for 3435th

@Erison why? So you can call upon your vast experience in training fighters and personally tailor him a new risk-assessed training regime? I've no doubt that would work out spectacularly. Do you people ever stop and think 'Gee, maybe the professional athlete who is the one doing the actual fighting in his own body, and the sports scientists who he's paying might possibly, maybe, be more qualified to solicit better training advice than mine, which is  basically the home-brewed wisdom of pointing to what one fighter does and simply saying 'he should just do that too'?

It's not hard to break the collarbone. In fact it's literally the most frequently broken bone. Injuries happen. 

And I don't really get why people care this is off anyway. Vettori is a terrible matchup for Till and it was basically a foregone conclusion. He'd have been subbed or pounded out within three rounds, tops. I actually don't mind Holland as a replacement. He's tough to finish on the ground and a wildcard striker. He'll probably get merked but considering what I just said it's the same net result as it would have been anyway.

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dirtyreg22
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03.31.2021 | 7:36 PM ET

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Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 2770th

Saldaña vs. Griffin
Jordan Griffin, DEC
luis saldana is 0-3 in fights that go to decision. griffin last 3 losses in the ufc has been to fighters that are all considered tougher then saldana.

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